What is the weight of a Lincoln SA200

"Tin Lizzie DL" wrote

When I disassembled mine, the glass bowl was frozen to the 50's technology cork/rubber gasket, and the threaded rod and nut tightening assembly, and the whole thing was pretty much one corroded piece. I took it off completely, and inserted TWO inline replacable gas filters, one for forward flow, and one for any back flow, and for northern/southern hemisphere applications. ;-) I could see that the gasket seal was a site for future problems, and the elimination of it was easy and cheap. I did not price a replacement, but imagine it would have been more than the Joe McGee solution I put in place.

I also noted that the gas intake port is on the front corner of the machine, so when parking it, it is easy to have it suck air when it gets low on gas, and if you either block it, or use the tongue jack to lower the front of the machine by just one degree, it will run entirely dry. Particularly if you have a high bumper truck. I just eyeball it, or put a small magnetic level on it. It ain't much gas of a difference, but it just might get you through that last weld.

Steve

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Steve B
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My SA 200 is an obnoxiously loud straight pipe with a rain flap. I want to put a muffler on there. Would any old cheap-o muffler do it, or is there a special one that has the right backpressure? How about the little 12-15 incher or so muffler? I'm sure I'm going to have to build a support bracket, too, and think I'll point it horizontal to keep height down, and not have it pointed up into the rain, although it does have a rain flap. Or maybe 45 it to point the gases and noise up just a little.

Anyone done this? Pointers?

Steve

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Steve B

Farm supply stores should have a suitable muffler.

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Ignoramus8104

Back pressure is not an issue with the Continental. Iggy suggested a tractor muffler they are probably the easiest to install

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You can also use a car muffler. Just stop at your local auto parts place, ask them for a short body muffler that has been sitting there way too long, adapt it as needed. The car muffler will be quieter than the tractor muffler.

For any of these solutions, the biggest thing is to get the input size to fit your pipe. You certainly can make an adapter but why not get the right muffler to start? Lots of choices, not much difference in cost.

Try to install the muffler horizontal and add an output pipe aimed down to avoid the need for a rain cap. If it's gotta go up, absolutely put a rain cap on it. In dry climates, make sure the exhaust isn't aimed at potential fire hazards like dry grass.

You might f> My SA 200 is an obnoxiously loud straight pipe with a rain flap. I want to

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RoyJ

I second and third the suggestion to aim exhaust at least slightly downward.

Rain caps are unreliable and damage can be massive.

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Ignoramus8104

The 'inside the case'/'under the hood' mufflers are a clean (elegant?) installation and add no external hardware that needs mounts and or supports and could limit clearance when moving. They do make the exhaust quieter, they do not make it quiet, and they are not enough to make your neighbours happy unless they are a VERY long way away. There is something about the cycling of engine speed and load that seems to draw attention. Constant but louder noise may be less noticeable / objectionable.

IMHO an inside the case muffler should be fitted to all welders as basic / permanent equipment. When working where noise may be a problem, I just remove the rain hat and place any large old muffler on top of the stack. This will really reduce the noise, just remember to remove before moving the machine.

There are external / outside the case mufflers ($) and mounting kits (more$) used on diesel driven units but I am sure you could fab something that will work just as well for a lot less money.

Good luck, just my .02

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Private

If you want it REALLY quiet and don't mind spending some money (I know, this is RCM where nobody wants to spend any money) these SuperTrapp Quiet Mufflers are really remarkable.

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I have one on my Miller Bobcat and I bought one for my 4x4 Coot amphibian. They are (relatively) compact and lightweight, but incredibly quiet. You just add one "disk" diffuser for each 7hp of engine output up to about 100hp.

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David Courtney

Anyone know the hp of a Continental F 163?

Steve

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This guy thinks it's 54 HP at 2800 RPM.

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Winston

Good running one should be around 60HP

Most of the units around here are running a simple farm tractor muffler usually off of something like a Farmall H or M

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Steve W.

You look at those units and they just don't look like they can weigh more t han 1,000 pounds, but those things are full of wires and if it's a generato r I bet it is close to 1,300 pounds. I know someone said that big 500 was 1

6,50. It would be more with the rig, cutting tanks and tools that a half to n truck would want.
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trapper8660

Steve, If you put a muffler on that thing you will miss that loud thing with the muffler flap. So just leave it alone.

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trapper8660

with no weld leads just the machine with a tank of gas 1230lbs

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rmart22a

replying to RoyJ, Germandarkgary wrote: Yes the lincoln welder with the f162 and f163 weight is 1500 and the diesel three and four cylinder engines are about 2800

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Germandarkgary

replying to RoyJ, Germandarkgary wrote: Okay now i have an f163 that was overhaul and has 500 or less hours the pistons are hammered out from carbon from what ive been looking in to was the possibility that lpg pistons where installed at the machine shop the top ring is

5/64 then 3/32 for 2nd and third ring and 1/4 oil ring i google tje part number off the piston and it came up as lpg i have regular gasoline engine piston ring configuration for lpg is to let more oil up cause lpg burns hotter and im looking for pistons with all 1/8 compression rings or 3/32 top and 1/8 for 2nd and third ring and a two piece oil ring to keep the oil down am i correct that the small ring configuration is for lpg
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