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HUrlford Tool Van DM 198625, 1960s

To cut a very long story short, I am trying to find out what this vehicle started off as.

It is about 50' long, looks a bit like a LNWR 50' arc-roofed (or possibly cove roofed) brake, except it has inset doors at the ends in the style of LNWR/WCJS elliptical-roofed stock (these are the original passenger doors, not the big sliding doors inserted when it was converted to a tool van) and I can't find any reference to these being fitted to arc-roofed stock. I can't find anything like it in Jenkinson's "LNWR Carriages" but according to Essery & Jenkinson it is in the number block allocated to pre-Group lav composites. The number was obtained from the Transport Treasury list (order in the post), the Perth tool van looks to have been very similar and is only 4 numbers apart - DM198621. I'd link to a picture if I could get my scanner to work.

Anybody got any ideas please ? Any information much appreciated.

Thanks,

Stuart.

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Stuart.
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Correction - it occurs to me that DMxxxxxx is a wagon number block, not carriage, so the lav comp bit is probably wrong. Definitely pre-group though. Stuart

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Stuart.

It could still have been an ex-carriage, but renumbered into the wagon blocks when converted for Departmental use. This wasn't uncommon- I've also seen the opposite (possibly due to an instruction being misread)- a 16t mineral numbered DMxxxxxxxM, which would normally be a coaching stock vehicle. Brian

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BH Williams

Thanks Brian, that makes sense. It's definitely a pre-group carriage of some sort, but not necessarily a former lav comp.

Stuart.

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