Why not look at IC ARTF 40 type.
They are dead easy to convert to electric and it opens up many new
choices for you. I have done a
Seagull Stearman See: http://www.mfarchive.modelstuff.co.uk/mf069/wipset.htm
Ben Buckle Majestic Major
All fly well.
On 4/5/2004 12:56 AM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
I recently decided to try electrics after flying glow planes for years.
My first plane was a Sky Scooter. It is a nice plane, however, I
found it VERY DISAPPOINTING on performance and the ability to handle
wind (a great trainer though).
I have found out since then, that MOST speed 400 planes have problems
with the following: ROG from a grass field, wind much over 5 mph (plane
gets knocked around quite a bit) and flight duration without LiPo
batteries is USUALLY under 8 minutes.
One plane setup I found (not a "conversion") is offered by MEC - the
3D Freedom http://www.modelelectronicscorp.com /
The plane/recommended setup provides 40 size performance, is VERY
aerobatic being 3D (quite stable though) and flight duration is about 10
- 12 minutes doing loops, rolls, hammerheads, cuban 8's. This is on a
10 cell NiMH pack. I am presently getting flights of 9 minutes doing
aerobatics (3/4 - full throttle) for about 7 of those 9 minutes. If you
just want to "putt around", I can realistically see flights of 12
minutes plus in duration.
I have the plane and love it. It handles the wind well and the
performance is right there with a 40 size plane.
The price isn't bad either - about $410 for EVERYTHING. The only
suggestion/addition I will make is to jumper a regular switch harness
(for the BEC - Battery Elimination Circuit) so you can cut off power to
Hope this helps.
I think that is fair comment. If youy want a plane that will handle a
bit of wind, you really are pushing into the twin 400/600 or better
bracket. Thats why I recommended the twinstar - its a twin 400 and has a
bit more size and weight to it.
Converting glo trainrtes may not always get you the performance you hope
for without spending a fair bit of cash. They are built wuite heavily.
Purpose built planes for electric are often a lot better - sometimes a
lot worse tho I agree.
10 sub C cells and a halfway decent motor/box/prop combo is about a .25
in performance. Thats a tad short of a .40 tho - for that you ned 10 AT
cells and a fairly expensive motor.
.25 sized planes can be electrified quite cheaply, beyond that the costs
start to spiral.
I really enjoy my old kit-built Great Planes ElectroStreak. The new ones
are ARFs. With an upgraded (modernized) motor and battery system, you'd
have an excellent airplane, me thinks....
Agree with you that a kit-built Electrostreak is a winner. The ARF is
a different animal. It looks very good, and the wings and tail
feathers are well built. The fuselage is another story - they cheaped
out on this. It is not epoxy glass like the nice sailplane models
from E Europe, possibly polyester, though if the latter it didn't wet
out and bond the glass fiber very well. The shell is heavy, soft and
brittle, and appears to be both gel-coated and painted. The paint is
oversprayed to the interior where it has to be sanded off before any
adhesive will bond.
I assembled one and fitted it with a Phasor 30/3 and 10 CP1700's. It
has 10X6 folding prop which provides ample motivation with motor
current about 30 A.
It is fun to fly after the launch, which is dicey in that stall speed
is about 25 mph at the finished weight of 47 oz. You need a helper
with a good throwing arm. It's the weight and fragile fuselage that
keeps me from recommending it. I follow my own advice too - picked up
NIB kit at the last swap meet I went to. I'm certain at least half a
pound can be saved with the kit, possibly more with care.
I'm sorry to hear that.... a really great airplane "ruined" by ARF
conversion. The kit is a pain to build with all that sanding the fuse to
shape, but the thing flies great. I was curious about the ARF as I have
destroyed one kit-built 'Streak and am flying my second one. I never
thought to pick up another kit just in case.
I have a Magnetic Mayhem truck motor in mine. I don't fly it all that
often, but whenever I do, I enjoy the heck out of it and start considering
upgrading the motor/battery. I honestly doubt I ever will unless I get more
involved in electrics (or hit the lottery).
On 6 Apr 2004 15:52:03 -0700, abel firstname.lastname@example.org (Abel Pranger)
that's what I've seen with the one at our club. it's heavy...it's
and the fuselage shape of the ARF is different...does not have the
elegance of the original kit design.
it does fly but NOT like the kit one I built a few years ago. that
was an amazing airplane on a direct drive astro 15 and ten cells...
park flyer plans
Try a Zagi or one of the other foam flying wings. The Zagi is mostly taped
together and I've found it to be a very rugged little plane. I have one of
the older Zagi 400s and I can get about 8 minutes with an 8-cell KAN 950
(now KAN1050) pack. The Zagi 400X uses larger batteries and can fly longer.
There are also other flying wings around with similar flying
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