| "Of course, this was all *after* he landed Maynard's `Spirit of | Butts' | Farm' TAM-5 in Ireland back in August 2003, after a nice long | autonomous flight. And of course the AMA rules permit them to give | waivers for this rule if desired." | | I keep reading and hearing people say this.
Odd. I've never seen anybody mention it in this context but me -- but then again, I can't read eveything everybody says everywhere.
| However, they seem to forget that the take off was from Newfoundland | and it landed in Ireland.
I haven't forgotten that. However, it still seems hypocritical for Brown to participate in this activity, then to shortly after amend the AMA rules to explicitly prohibit this sort of flight.
| Neither of these places are in the USA and it is questionable if the | AMA is/was envolved at all.
Early flight testing was done at Butts Farm in Maryland. It seems like a good guess that the autopilot was engaged at least once over the US. (Of course, the AMA rules didn't prohibit that back then, and even if they did, I'm sure Maynard could have easily gotten a waiver.) I've no idea what the FAA (and Canada/Ireland equivilents) rules (which generally DO have the force of law behind them, unlike AMA rules) have to say about all of that, but I imagine that Maynard took care of all of that too.
Considering that TAM-5 is currently in the AMA museum, and it was landed by the president of the AMA, I think it's a pretty good bet that the AMA was involved somehow. Even if the entire world record breaking flight happened outside of the AMA's ... area of influence, for lack of a better word. (Juristiction certainly isn't the right word.)
| Secondarily, you can fly a model with out AMA. If you want the AMA | insurance to cover you then you must obey the safety code. The AMA | is not a legislative body.
I'm fully aware of that as well. Did I say anything to make you think I believed otherwise?
However, if you're the sort of person to attempt to aeromodelling beat world records in the US, you're almost certain to be an AMA member. You can't even enter most competitions without being an AMA member, and I'm not sure the FAI would even talk to you if you weren't an AMA member (or it's equivilent if you're in another country.) And once you're an AMA member, you've agreed to follow their rules, whether you care about their insurance or not.
| I know if I had attempted this feat, AMA insurance would be the last | of my considerations because the flight was over a vast ocean.
AMA insurance is almost never one of my primary considerations. I have homeowners insurance that covers me, and the AMA insurance is secondary -- so it would have to be a really serious accident for the AMA to pay anything anyways. And I generally fly small electrics and gliders anyways, so the likelyhood of a serious accident is pretty small.
But I agreed to follow the AMA rules when I joined, insurance or not, and they're generally reasonable, so I follow them. It really has nothing to do with any fear of invalidating the insurance.