#OT# PMI, smoke and and the taxpayer's sphincter

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More "stuff" dribbles out. It now appears that there were

*MASSIVE* tax evasion frauds being comitted.

The deals were so complex that many misfired, and in other cases, some of the people involved apparently just took [some of] the money off the top and told the banks, if you don't like it, call the cops -- and we are sure they will be very interested in what we have to say. Note this is *ONE* bank, and there are at least

10 of this size or bigger, world wide.

FWIW

1LB(GB) = 1.37$US 500 million LB(GB) = 687 million $US

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RBS avoided £500m of tax in global deals

State-supported bank admits billions were put into schemes to cut tax bill

  • Felicity Lawrence and David Leigh * The Guardian, Friday 13 March 2009

Royal Bank of Scotland tied up at least £25bn in complex international tax-avoidance schemes during its boom years, costing the British and US treasuries more than £500m in lost revenue, the Guardian can disclose.

It is the first time that a major bank has admitted the existence of such deals on this scale. The new management at RBS, mindful of the fact that it is now 70% owned by the taxpayer, has disbanded the department responsible and will put an end to the controversial practice.

The Guardian has identified at least 13 such deals, many using the offshore facilities of the Cayman Islands, in the Caribbean, in ingenious ways.

The deals involved "investments" of as much as £6bn at a time. The cash was moved in circles between RBS and other banks. One former British official close to the US revenue's intelligence efforts said tax deals such as this were an important factor in driving the "securitisation" boom which led to the worldwide financial calamity.

Banks enthusiastically bought huge tranches of so-called mortgage-backed securities as part of tax deals.

The British official said: "Mega tax-avoidance schemes demanded the movement of mega funds. The web of notes passing between banks to effect avoidance schemes was so big and complex that no-one knew quite what they had.

"The profit is actually only a tax relief and the underlying reality of many of these deals was a loss."

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--------------- Even more stinky stuff seeping out. Now combine this with massive tax evasion [see other post this thread]

For a copy of their 73 page paper "Looting: The Economic Underworld of Bankruptcy for Profit" and/or info click on

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By DAVID LEONHARDT Published: March 10, 2009

Sixteen years ago, two economists published a research paper with a delightfully simple title: ?Looting.?

The economists were George Akerlof, who would later win a Nobel Prize, and Paul Romer, the renowned expert on economic growth. In the paper, they argued that several financial crises in the

1980s, like the Texas real estate bust, had been the result of private investors taking advantage of the government. The investors had borrowed huge amounts of money, made big profits when times were good and then left the government holding the bag for their eventual (and predictable) losses.

In a word, the investors looted. Someone trying to make an honest profit, Professors Akerlof and Romer said, would have operated in a completely different manner. The investors displayed a ?total disregard for even the most basic principles of lending,? failing to verify standard information about their borrowers or, in some cases, even to ask for that information.

The investors ?acted as if future losses were somebody else?s problem,? the economists wrote. ?They were right.?

And ?Looting? provides a really useful framework. The paper?s message is that the promise of government bailouts isn?t merely one aspect of the problem. It is the core problem.

Promised bailouts mean that anyone lending money to Wall Street ? ranging from small-time savers like you and me to the Chinese government ? doesn?t have to worry about losing that money. The United States Treasury (which, in the end, is also you and me) will cover the losses. In fact, it has to cover the losses, to prevent a cascade of worldwide losses and panic that would make today?s crisis look tame.

But the knowledge among lenders that their money will ultimately be returned, no matter what, clearly brings a terrible downside. It keeps the lenders from asking tough questions about how their money is being used. Looters ? savings and loans and Texas developers in the 1980s; the American International Group, Citigroup, Fannie Mae and the rest in this decade ? can then act as if their future losses are indeed somebody else?s problem.

Do you remember the mea culpa that Alan Greenspan, Mr. Bernanke?s predecessor, delivered on Capitol Hill last fall? He said that he was ?in a state of shocked disbelief? that ?the self-interest? of Wall Street bankers hadn?t prevented this mess.

He shouldn?t have been. The looting theory explains why his laissez-faire theory didn?t hold up. The bankers were acting in their self-interest, after all.

Think about the so-called liars? loans from recent years: like those Texas real estate loans from the 1980s, they never had a chance of paying off. Sure, they would deliver big profits for a while, so long as the bubble kept inflating. But when they inevitably imploded, the losses would overwhelm the gains. As Gretchen Morgenson has reported, Merrill Lynch?s losses from the last two years wiped out its profits from the previous decade.

What happened? Banks borrowed money from lenders around the world. The bankers then kept a big chunk of that money for themselves, calling it ?management fees? or ?performance bonuses.? Once the investments were exposed as hopeless, the lenders ? ordinary savers, foreign countries, other banks, you name it ? were repaid with government bailouts.

In effect, the bankers had siphoned off this bailout money in advance, years before the government had spent it.

Above all, as Mr. Romer says, the federal government needs the power and the will to take over a firm as soon as its potential losses exceed its assets. Anything short of that is an invitation to loot.

Mr. Bernanke actually took a step in this direction on Tuesday. He said the government ?needs improved tools to allow the orderly resolution of a systemically important nonbank financial firm.? In layman?s terms, he was asking for a clearer legal path to nationalization.

At a time like this, when trust in financial markets is so scant, it may be hard to imagine that looting will ever be a problem again. But it will be. If we don?t get rid of the incentive to loot, the only question is what form the next round of looting will take.

Mr. Akerlof and Mr. Romer finished writing their paper in the early 1990s, when the economy was still suffering a hangover from the excesses of the 1980s. But Mr. Akerlof told Mr. Romer ? a skeptical Mr. Romer, as he acknowledged with a laugh on Tuesday ? that the next candidate for looting already seemed to be taking shape.

It was an obscure little market called credit derivatives.

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Unka' George [George McDuffee]

------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies, must expect new evils: for Time is the greatest innovator: and if Time, of course, alter things to the worse, and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better, what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman. Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

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