Thanks for the tip, but that doesn't help much. I don't want to buy the entire database (on CDROM or anything else) just for one answer. Any other ideas?
Sorry, I did not really look at page and did not know they charged. I am at home, but if you do not get info. from someone else by tomorrow at this time, I will photocopy page from TDG manual at work and give you info.
I am actually.. but you're very close. That link certainly seems to indicate that Kero is classed as a Flammable in Canada - but it makes no reference to any particular Standard (NFPA? FM?? I'm not sure what you guys use).
The crowd that claimed it was Combustible (not Flammable) were a rather large (and respectable) US company - I just wanted to check out where they might have got their info from. It makes a massive difference to the electrical installation - and they stand to save heaps of $$ if they're right.
The term " Dangerous Goods " only refers to the sale or transportation of hazardous materials. If electrical installation is involved with Kerosene, then TDG does not apply. I don't know about the rest of Canada, but here in Alberta, the Provincial Fire Code does use NFPA standards, but you should check into the codes of the particular province that you are dealing with. If it is a Territory, then the Federal standards will apply.
Ah it is an electrical area approval that you're after....you'll have to adhere to CSA (Canadian Standards Association) guidelines. There is a national code called the Canadian Electrical Code (CEC) however some of the provinces also have their own provincial guidelines (example Ontario has their "Ontario Hydro" guidelines as does "Hydro Quebec", Nova Scotia Power, etc.).
What province are you doing work in? Keep in mind that you will have to have your design and any drawings approved by an Electrical Engineer qualified to "stamp" drawings in that jurisdiction.
The Canadian Electrical Code (CEC) is essentially the same as the National Electrical Code (NEC) which is also known as NFPA 70. The old definitions (not IEC Zone system) were:
Group A - acetylene Group B - hydrogen or gases of equivalent hazard Group C - ethyl ether, ethylene or clyclopropane Group D - gasoline, hexane, naphtha, benzene, butane, propane, alcohol, acetone, benzol, lacquer solvent, vapors or natural gas.
Since kerosene has a higher flash point than all the Group D materials it seems you are safe as far as electrical area classification is concerned. That is why kerosene is used as jet fuel and lantern fuel, it's a lot safer. One thing to watch out for -- all this assumes the kerosene is at room temperature. It's a lot different if the stuff is heated to near its flash point.
Another caveat -- The paragraph above deals only with electrical ignition hazards. When you used the phrase 'dangerous goods' it sounds like you talking about trucking on public roads. A lot of other factors, such as toxicity, enter at that point.
Walter, over here, all flammable or combustible liquids are classed as "dangerous goods" and come under the Australian Dangerous Goods (ADG) Code - for trucking - but.. The electrical installation standards refer to the ADG code in that, if the ADG says something is a "dangerous good" then you must take special precautions when wiring anything around it. That way you don't get the double-ups cited by Cosmopolite.
(I get the impression that the IEC Standards are a different ball-game entirely)
Based on your assessment of NFPA 70 (I don't have a copy) would you say that Jet Fuel is a Flammable or a Combustible? And on the basis of which Clause??
I'm trying to get a feel for your electrical installation requirements..
Sorry, I don't. Got info from Alberta Fire Code, which only makes reference to a number of standards at the beginning but does not cross reference anything.
Looking again at the MSDS's downloaded from various parts of the US/Canada, the answer to my previous question seems to be "it depends who you talk to" so let me rephrase the question as follows:
Say I was asked to build a Jet-A1 (flash point = 40degC) fuel storage installation somewhere in the US of A. According to the Standards (eg. NFPA
70), are there any special requirements (eg. flameproof) I must comply with? which ones? and _exactly_ what do the Standards say??
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