GM codes

Funny thing at my local Chevy dealer.. They were visited by regional bosses and the key code procedures were checked.. seems there has been a problem in another area of their district.. ANYWAY, my local dealer passed OK, BUT they got left 8 pages of instructions etc regarding giving out same.. havent had a chance to talk to the dept manager yet but will be interested in what has changed..

--Shiva--

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I would also be interested. Please post the results when you find out, ok I wonder if it national or just localized ? Hate it when a few screw it up for the rest of us...

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Key

Locksmiths have absolutely no business with code information. The car dealers and manufacturers should keep it completely in house and refuse to provide it to any locksmiths. This is completely in keeping with the security by obscurity stupidity the lock industry insists on. The fewer people with access to key codes the less potential for misuse. Many locksmiths are unlicensed and those who are are not subjected to regular background checks, say 3 or 4 times a year. As such locksmiths should not be trusted with code information.

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Tim Mathews" <Tim

ROFL..

some already do- just DARE you to lose the keys to some cars.. you are going to royally have a cow when you are quoted the prices..

Idiot here in my town loaned his Jag to 16 year old son, who lost the ONLY key that daddy had.. he got off pretty cheap in my thinking.. $1100 for new keys.. $700 of which was the roll back to haul it to the dealership 375 miles away..at that time.. current prices would cost him a grand for same..new keys were $400 BTW. and Mercedes? love em.. 3 days labor at dealership to put keys back into a couple of models..

Whats the other good story I heard.. Land Rover..to take to the dealer due to it being a 'dealer item only' was 5 hour drive each way.. the lady was ROYALLY cussing over that one..

--Shiva--

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Talked to dept head.. changes were internal to them, a better paper trail, who did what for what, and break it down to employee such and such got the codes for Mr Smith etc..

Pink Slip, drivers license, tag number, and some other proof of who you are required..

and BTW, My dealership has a 'GM' recommended supplied Key Machine that they use, and they cannot cut Cobalt keys accurately on it..something seriously wrong with it somewhere but they are fussing at the dealer rep on that one.its cutting off about .015 JUST on those keys.. Someone got silly on one of the new blanks too.. the blanks measure IIRR .318 wide, and a #1 depth is 325..but, you got to gauge it off the opposite side..makes life interesting..

--Shiva--

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you may change your mind when you compare prices between the locksmith and the dealer. then again, maybe not in your clueless case :-)

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Key

dealers here have been doing the same for nearly a year now. it sure helps to have a good, longtime, trusting relationship with them.

g'day Shiva

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Key

hell, didn't realize that was you timmy. should have know by your clueless statement. seen you statement in a quote. no real need for your clueless reply. you are still in my bo-zo bin troll-boy..

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Key

Tim, I have a code service, the same place that the car dealers call-and guess what? I think I have called them 3 times in a year.

I rarely need a code.

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goma865

The gm dealer here recently did some downsizing-closed one place down and expanded the other some. I recently got a whole new set of forms from my code service-alot more that I filled out the first time-oh well.

goma.

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goma865

Whatever would we do without key codes. Only time I use a key code is on an auction car when I find someone left the key code in the car. In fact, as a locksmith I would also prefer codes are unavailable. For many reasons, none of which have anything to do with trustworthiness. What does a keycode mean on a GM? Saving 5 minutes?

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soslock

I suspect that prices that cause you to have a cow hardly cause me to raise an eyebrow but of course that's just a guess. That said the last key I got from a dealer cost as best I remember $12.95 and that was for them to cut it from code lookup.

The owners have probably been known to spend that much on a night out. To you it's a lot of money. To the average BMW or Jag owner it's a minor inconvenience.

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Tim Mathews" <Tim

$12.95 for the last key I got from a dealer key. Can you beat that?

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Tim Mathews" <Tim

Key you aren't even a good liar. It's clear from your original response you knew exactly who it was. What is this the 9th or 10th time you've sworn off replying to me now? I've lost count. Try to work on that self control.

PS Have you figured out the safe ratings yet? You've had 25 years and that wasn't enough so I guess it's a bit much to think you would catch on in only a couple days.

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Tim Mathews" <Tim

Well between you and Goma there seems to be a consensus that locksmiths indeed do not need code information. Does that mean that ALOA will be petitioning the auto makers to no longer release code information to locksmiths? LOL I won't hold my breath.

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Tim Mathews" <Tim

haven't heard of a locksmith having direct access to GM for codes. maybe through a dealer but not directly from a locksmith.

please correct me if I am wrong.

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Key

what reasons would those be ? I remember when everything had to be done without the benefit of code information. had to break down many steering colums and re-assemble them. had to remove glove box plugs and re-install them. had to progress missing cuts. had to r&r some door panels to remove locks. had to r&r some trunk locks. had to spend up to 48 minutes to integerate a GM to determine the correct diode/blank. had to spend about 10+ minutes impressioning some of the keys. (many had two keys to impression)

the availability of codes relieve the locksmith from considerable liability when all the locksmith has done was cut the key by code. instead of proforming the above procedures which would open the Locksmith to numorus liabilities.

when you have code information readly available. it saves quiet a bit more than 5 minutes. if I had to call for the code (less than 5 minutes). look up, sometimes two codes on the computer and cut both keys (also less than 5 minutes) total 10 minutes tops. so you are saying, without having code information, that you can produce, sometimes two gm keys in 15 minutes. I find that a little hard to believe. if you can do that ? I sure would like to know how.

no pun intended

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Key

I got about 50 cars on a list that lost keys start at $1,000 and go to an unverified $16,000 these are dealer prices too. Hauling is extra.. --Shiva--

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Tim, I have a code service, the same place that the car dealers call-and guess what? I think I have called them 3 times in a year.

I rarely need a code.

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Bill Halle

When I first signed up for the code service, I was told that they also retrieve codes for car dealers-I did not specify GM, So you could be right.

goma.

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