Removing Weiser doorknob cylinder

the little thin by almost 3/16" wide tail piece has no give?? the key will turn a FULL TURN if you are in the proper mode.. --Shiva--

The tail has no give at all. Inserting the key at the 6 o'clock position, it will turn 45 degrees to the 9 o'clock position & swing back past 6 o'clock over to the 3 o'clock position. It will not make the full turn. This is a brand new lockset....Carlisle model (egg shaped). That tail just will not move. It will twist, but not push or pull. JJ

JJ, Can you show me where your'e googling?

goma.

Hey, thanks, guys. I played around with it & got it open. There's a hole on the side where a release button was. Even though I had tried it earlier, it wouldn't release. I went back to that theory &finally found the magic touch. It's been years since I did lock work. I guess my bicycle just needed some training wheels. lol JJ

Sure, I googled, "How to remove Weiser lock cylinder". It sent me to a thread here in alt.locksmithing. JJ

JJ, Yep-the poke-hole.A few times I have had to take a small punch and gently persuade them. They get froze-up..even if they are new.

goma.

OLD style, pull the bar.. new style, differs --Shiva--

Did you have to turn the key and then depress the retainer by chance? Sounds like wieser's going into schlage mode like so many imports have gone in the past and future. Glad you got it off. good luck and hope you had a Merry Christmas. Roger

Either Schlage mode, or Arrow mode. Lets hope Schlage doesn't go cheap with their A-line like they did with the F/up line.

Sounds like we'll need some more techniques for Weiser. At least the fellow didn't have Weiserbolts.

The ones I love are the Harloc-90 degree channels. Push in-twist to the left till you feel a click-or not-then pull out-very tight after 30 years-lol

goma.

kinda wonder if he actually was dealing with a Weiser ? many different brands can be bought with a Weiser keyway.

The Weiserbolt wasn't a bad knob lock, definitely not my favorite to service (Especially if you haven't used the cap tool in a year or 2) but not so bad if you do them from time to time.

Lucky me has only worked on two or three Weiserbolts. Someone made a round tool for removing the threaded on piece on the back of the plug.

Met a Weiser rep one time, who tried to assure me that his brand was great quality. The plastic they use for the cylinders is "Delrin 3, the same plastic they use for space helmets, and never needs lubrication". I don't think it's relevant about the space helmets. But, every Weiser I've seen has needed lubrication of some sort or other.

I got a deadbolt install job earlier this year. Got the deadbolts, and knobs in Schlage, cause I've had such good results with them. I will never again reccomend Schlage to anyone residential. The spring caps are miserable. The drivers are too short, and they saved 10 cents by making a one piece exterior knob instead of the old two piece knob.

Had a spring cap fly off, and I wasn't able to get it to stay back on.

Now, Kwikkie has me worried. The new "do everything" bolts I don't like. The ones that had the piece that slides out for 2 3/4 backset were a bad idea, and now they have a lift and slide extender for the knob lock bolts. The twist bolts for the 660 were acceptable.

Maybe this was Schlage's answer to the A-1 Quick pull for F series knobs. Haven't tryed it on a newer style yet. Oh and that new spring cap is wide open for salt in my neck of the woods.

I'll tell you that long wieser tool is a Godsend, between that, a good set of truarc pliers, and a good memory on how the blasted thing came apart. You ought to be able to rekey the damn thing.

I did like the older style latches by kwikset, but as far as the new ones go I don't like'em either.

Roger

Cal Royal might be worth looking at in their grade 2.. Doesnt have all the finishes as the Sclag heap, however, the bolt is far better than the KW. and by my supplier, the cost is not THAT much greater.

--Shiva--