Euro cylinder - help needed!

Jan 07, 2004 Last reply: 22 years ago 9 Replies

Hello all



I am looking for a replacement euro cylinder that allows the door to be unlocked (with a key) from the outside even if there is a key in the lock on the inside. Does such a creature exist? I recently locked myself out - the door slammed shut behind me and the key was still in the door (I don't normally leave keys in the door I had just unlocked it), I had spare keys but had to pay £75 for a locksmith to get the keys out before I could use the spare key to get in. Hopefully I will be careful enough to not let it happen again but I just want to be sure!



I heard that if I use a turn and key euro cylinder my insurance would be invalidated as I have a letterbox on the door (oven my neighbours daughter couldn't get her hand in) but I don't want to do that if there will be problems with my insurance.



TIA



Angela


What's the location of the mail slot?

Middle of door, bottom?

If middle, how about closing it off & installing a "MAIL BOX" on the exterior of the Bldg?

If bottom, I don't see if there's a problem.

Your ins regs over the pond may be different than ours here, but, I really don't see how they can mandate a FIRE HAZZARD double cylinder lock.

My 2 cents worth,

Newnsie

Interestingly, in a nation of over 50M people, locking residential entrance doors from the inside has never seemed to be a real issue with respect to fire safety. Perhaps the number of fatalities attributed to this is insignificant.

Many of these doors are locked with insurance approved (ie meeting British Standard 3621) bit key lever locks for which inside turn-knobs are not an option.

The simple answer is yes you can see your local locksmith, they are used in some residential homes. you have to think about how many time this has happened in the past, in 10 years i've come across it maybe 5 times. As for the turn on the inside (known as a thumb turn) it's not the fact that some one can put their hand in the letter box that is the security risk it's to stop some one who has broken into your house from getting an easy exit from your property with all your stuff i.e entry point little window exit point big door way. a lot of burgerlers will look for an exit point before they look to see what to take so they know what they can take.

Nick

The problem with this is the design of the profile cylinder. There may be a solution however, check with your local locksmith and see if cutting a special key might work. I suspect that if the cuts are widened a bit toward the tip of the key, this would allow the modified key to be inserted in the outside and either turn the cam as well as the inside cylinder to open the lock or allow you to rotate the inside cylinder to the point where the inside key will be in a position that you could push it out from the outside.

Print this and show it to your local locksmith, he should be able to figure out what I am talking about.

Sure, it`s very common here in Germany.

Stefan

Hi Stefan

Are there any online suppliers?

cutting a

inserted in the

Thanks Roger I will go to my locksmith armed with your advice................wish me luck!

Angela

Exactly this way it is done, even high security cylinders (DOM, EVVA) offer this option. In Germany this is called "Gefahrenschlüssel", what means something like emergency key.

regards - Ralph

The easiest way to solve this problem is to shorten the end of the key you want to use.It will overcome this problem as i have been using this method for years after getting locked out too !! Just get a copy made and get the person making it to grind a bit off but not as far as the first pins cut.

al

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