Sergeant and Greenleaf Floor Safe

First, unless it is specifically part of the combination, forget all about "zero". It is irrelevant in most cases.

There are several dialing sequences for different safes. The most popular is....

(Exactly like this. Don't "read anything into it")

L 4x to the first number

R 3x to the second number

L 2x to the third number

R to a full stop

Turn the handle.

Remember count the number each time you come up to it.

Let's say your first number is 25 and the second number is 15. You will turn L 4x to 25. On the fourth time it comes up, DO NOT PASS IT and try to back-up - not even by one number. If you do, start over from the beginning. Go slooooowly!

Now once you stopped the forth time on the first number, take your hand off the dial and look at the second number (15). You should be stopped at "25". The number "15" is only ten numbers away as you begin to turn the dial to the right. As soon as you hit 15 the first time, that counts as one! go around two more times and stop on 15. If you pass it on the third time, start over from the beginning.

Let's say your next (third) number is "35". Once you've come up on 15 the third time, stop. Take your hand off the dial. Look at where 35 is in relation to 15. As you begin to turn left. as soon as you hit 35, that's one. Turn the dial one more time and stop on 35. If you pass it on the second time, start over from the beginning.

Now just turn right to the last number, then turn the handle.

That should do it. There are some manipulation resistant locks that require another step or two, but probably not what you are dealing with.

BTW - S&G doesn't make safes. They make safe locks.

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Mr. DeWeese, The Curse Is Broken! Using your instructions I have successfully opened my safe four times in a row. Many thanks for you invaluable tutelage. If your ever in LA, the beers on me.

Bob DeWeese, CML, CJS wrote:

Dear Stormin,

Your detailed instructions worked perfectly. I have no doubt I will be opening the safe each day to test my new skill.

Thanks,

In lieu of the seventy eight and change, being a documentary film maker I hereby commit to producing an 8 second documentary on any subject you'd like.

Again, many Thanks for your expertise.

Joe Viola

Storm> Dear Joe,

Just count how many times the actual combo number aligns with the opening index mark. If the combo is 10-20-30 turn left stopping the 4th time ten lines up then turn R stopping the 3rd time 20 lines up then turn left stopping the 2nd time 30 lines up then turn the dial R until the dial stops. There are other sequences for other locks but it sounds like this is yours. You can also add one extra revolution the FIRST TIME you turn to the left in case you overcount by one. It doesn't matter if you make the INITIAL L turn

4 or 100 revolutions as long as it's at least 4. If you dial it a lot you will start to recognize when you've turned enough times initially to the left because you won't feel any more little 'clicks' as wheels pickup.

Example: Turn your dial at least 4 revolutions R now reverse direction going left and turn it 5 or 6 revolutions. Pay attention to the way the dial feels and what you hear. See what I mean?

You've expanded my knowledge base that much more. I did pay special attention to how the dial sounded and felt and suddenly I could discern the difference. Wonderful! Thanks again.

Joe Viola