Banning incandescent lamps?

Dec 22, 2007 107 Replies

Might help to change to fixtures with a reflector, so the light goes where you want it.

They have 42W CFL's that claim to be a 150W equivalent - but if you don't think a 27 = 100, then you might think the 42 = 100.

Not with the current crop - they had some CFL's that claimed to be dimmable, but with the unfortunate side effect of catching on fire. Not an admirable trait for home electronics...

If you really want to dim your fluorescents you can go with old-tech F34T8 or F40T12 strip fixtures and commercially available dimming ballasts. But you need a special dimmer and a second hot lead from the dimmer to the fixture for the control voltage. And you have to burn in new lamps for 100 hours at full brightness before dimming them.

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Okya, I didn't rnu the splel chekcer.

Wes

The original CAFE standards did not include things like Suburbans which is why the SUV craze started. Remember the days where a station wagon pulled a boat or a camper? That died with CAFE.

Wes

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:36:46 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, NoOne N Particular quickly quoth:

I use 2 23w CFs in my bathroom and it puts out -much- more light than

4 60w incans. These are not "warm white" CFs, which really mimic the ugly yellow light of incans. I much prefer the more pure (bluish-) white of the "cool white" bulbs.

I have a CF bulb 6' above my FM antenna and notice no static whatever. Is she listening to AM? If so, static serves her right. You might look into LED lamps for that position.

I've heard of them. Hmm...Amazon has them (42W sure beats 150!) for $10 (Globe Elec.) or 3 for $43 (GE bulbs). Search for "150 watt compact fluorescent" on Amazon or Google it.

Some are out now, but they're $40 a pop. I'll wait, but really want some of the dimmables, too. Cheap Chiwanese jobs are on eBay already. I may try some.

-- Once we believe in ourselves, we can risk curiosity, wonder, spontaneous delight, or any experience that reveals the human spirit. --e e cummings

The only practical solution would be to manufacture all common, household bulb-type lighting fixtures with a left-hand garden hose connector thread.

That will ultimately solve two problems.. ordinary lamp/fixture lamps will have to be replaced with only the approved "kill the planet with polluting manufacturing effects of making the CF lamps"..

and also put an end to the fuctup LL/RT saying "lefty-loosey.." (and you know the rest).

The new expression would probably need to be something like Clockwise, it's time to replace the defective CF lamp and where's the GD package that stated that this thing was supposed to last for years. Anti-Clockwise, to screw in the new planet killing (easy to remember.. as in screw the planet) CF lamp that will only last about one year despite the packaging claim of seven year life.

Mandated vehicle mileage: BMW and the Hummer divisions to release new, stylish bicycle models.

WB ......... metalworking projects

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Bigassed motorhome passed me Sunday, on my way home up north.

Painted on the back was:

"All this, and better mileage than a Hummer"

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Of course we could adopt the English multitude of lamp bases, or so it seemed last time I tried to change a bulb at senior son's home. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

Especially the Hummer I passed on the freeway night - damned thing had to be a block long. SWMBO said "why?" Gerry :-)} London, Canada

SWMBO has a theory that involves (over)compensation for certain physical "deficiencies"..

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:14:25 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Gerald Miller quickly quoth:

They're called "Limousines", Gerry. Rich folks rent them (Hummers in all shapes) to pretend they're either 4-wheelin' or in the Army for the day or evening.

Merry Christmas.

They (Hummers) are pretty popular here in So. California, for making custom limos out of.

Limos are an intersting subject..they make half their contacts by being unique in design. Seen em made from pickup trucks, Hummers, Freightliners and so on and so forth.

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Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the s*it out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

And merry Christmas back to you. That vehicle looked to me like it might be good for a mobile w**re house - no tell tale rock in the suspension! Gerry :-)} London, Canada

Business opportunity; smuggle light bulbs ;)

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When they outlaw light bulbs, only outlaws will have light bulbs! ;-)

BTW, I have about a 10 year stockpile from relatives who already switched. :(

My younger brother is in the Army, and despite the fact that he's stationed in Alaska, a Hummer is the last vehicle he would choose to drive.

I've just about totally switched over myself. It didn't take a law. When the numbers work out you do it. Government assumes we are too stupid to think for ourselves on economic matters.

Wes

Well, the government is right: most people are. d8-)

-- Ed Huntress

Yep, same here. The cost of the bulbs is about a wash, actually: the extra lifespan is pretty much in proportion to the extra cost. But the reduction in energy consumption has dropped my monthly electricity bill by almost $20.

Except the government is even stupider than most people ;)

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