Probably good enough for residential needs.
I can sell you a military MEP-006A diesel generator with 800 hours on
Price is $4k CASH and includes a free trailer.
I will be asking for more elsewhere.
Before you commit I suggest you do some number crunching as to what
it will cost to run a nat gas generator for, say a week's power outage
and compare this to what it would cost with a gas or diesel engine. I
did and found that that running my house off my Miller gas welding
machine was a lot cheaper in the long run, plus I had a welding
machine to boot
No autostart and no auto transfer switch. Never felt like it was
needed because just about anyone can hit a start button and run
extension cords. Had neighbors who were real proud of their nat gas
generators during Katrina 9 day outage get real squeamish when they
got their $2k nat gas bills at the end of the month. I was just as
comfortable and used about $200 worth of gasoline. Have not had to use
mine since then but hear theirs crank and run every week for an hour
or so. Their initial investment was about 2.5 times mine. I talked the
the gas company when I was considering a nat gas genset and they told
me that I would also have to run a new gas service because the normal
residential would not be able to feed a 13K genset. Not saying it is
the same everywhere, just repeating what I was told. I'm in south
Louisiana Good luck!
Then it won't do what she wants. Some people don't want to be
outside in the dark, in the rain or snow to start a generator, or to run
cords. Some need autostart & a transfer switch becasue they can't be
without power when they aren't home.
For the last time: I am not a mad scientist, I'm just a very ticked off
Rated fuel consumption on a Generac 14kw is 240 cu.' per hour @ full
load, 150 @ half load. I'm running mine on propane which is 2.8/2.2
gal./hr. Around here the price of natural gas & propane are about the
same per BTU-
which is probably a lot higher than your part of the world.
At "half" consumption nine days running time would set me back ~$650
bucks. Of course shutting it down when not needed wouud reduce that
by a goodly amount.
I suggest your neighbours get thier meter checked, seems to be running
a bit "high".
It surprises me that a diesel or gas gen would cost less to run than
natural gas as nat gas is a lot cheaper (on a BTU basis). In any case,
we want auto start/stop and don't want to mess with liquid fuels if
possible. The specific circumstances also require idiot proofness.
I'm a bit skepical that NG costs more than diesel or gasoline. I believe NG is
BTU's are Btu's, just a standard measure of energy. Using the above site the
consider normal (I didn't not verify validity), I get the following:
Electricity 37.17 per 1M btu
NG at 16.35
#2 Fuel oil at 23.58
Propane at 28.65
Firewood at 12.99 (steam powered genset anyone, just put that one in there for
NG is normally still available during power outages. Now an earth quake might
different issue since the distribution system may be compromised.
Sadly generac doesn't make a dual fuel as in NG/Fuel oil in their residential
do for their industrial offerings. That would be sweet and offer you options.
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Does anyone know what the certainty is of the natural gas supply to
continue uninterrupted during a week+long region-wide power outage?
There's lots of capacity in the pipeline, but...
1) how long will that last
2) what kind of backup power systems do they have for it
3) is it Obama/FEMA-proof?
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government." --Edward Abbey
This is an excellent questionn. I believe that NG pumping stations do
have their own backup generators, but I am not generally sure how
generally reliable is gas supply (outside of San Bruno, that is).
I have a diesel generator and a little bit of my own fuel.
Thanks to the ever benevolent federal agencies, we have been blessed
with ethanol. For those using gasoline, what are the effects of storing
So far, diesel seems to be a promising, long term solution.
The question that should be asked is it EPA proof?
The newer gas doesn't store well at all untreated, but if you always
treat it with a suitable stabilizer it will store a year adequately. If
you ensure that you put your gas stock into your vehicle and replace the
stock with fresh every six months you should be fine.
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