Here's to you teenut

Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario.

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Brian Lawson
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Hear, Hear, Brian! Is this a reference to an anniversary of Teenut's death?

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Robert Swinney

Count me in as well.......Tomorrow if my memory serves me right (Jan

11th) is when Robert passed away......
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The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

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My all time favorite post from TeeNut:

The drill was ground, freehand, on the FACE of the wheel (not the flat side) being taken to keep the POINT angle as equal as possible on both sides..I'll tell you how to do THAT in a moment..

Lets do that now in fact..

Jim, You are dead right about not being able to grind a drill without mechanical help! Well here's how you create your own "6 Million Dollar Bionic Darex" ;^)

Let's assume we are going to sharpen a 3/8" diameter, 2MT shank is about 8" long (these figures are arbitrary..I just want every one to have the same mental picture of what I am describing. We approach the wheel, which has been dressed on its face, dead straight across with no grooves..(Ve SHOOT anyone ve catch putting grooves in ze drill wheel!!..No Pity..No Prisoners..Ya! Verdampt!)


The drill shank is held firmly in the RIGHT hand...ALL the movement and control is imparted by the RIGHT hand. For the purposes of drill grinding, the left hand could be...with benefit..a LUMP OF CLAY!!

It is from this "lump of clay" that we fashion the Bionic Darex".

Place your left hand thumb and finger tips LIGHTLY together..Relax the other three fingers aand let them naturally curl against the palm of your hand. Let the drill flute drop into the vee between thumb and fore finger and let the tip of the finger "Find" the curve of the flute where it fits comfortably. The tip of the thumb rests on the sharp junction ot the land and the flute, about an inch back from the drill tip.

Now...SQUEEZE HARD!!! YOUCH!...I said it would be easier if it were clay!

8^) Lift the drill from your fingers...see the GROOVE?...Drop the drill back locates within a thou or two! Magic?..Bionic at least! Squeeze again to set the groove. You have created a customised drill guide that fits better that that on any machine ever built! You can relax your grip now..feel how smoothly the drill will ride back and forth, guided by the groove you have created for it.

Place the knuckles of your left hand, LIGHTLY on the ginding wheel tool rest, and swing the drill shank, from left to right (using ONLY your right hand) and push the drill lengthways though that groove in your fingers back or forth using the groove to make the drill twist or "rifle" in your fingers. Do NOT move your left hand in any is made of clay remember!


A) The drill axis is "eyeballed" to be at half the required point angle to the wheel face...You can scribe or chalk reference lines on your grinder benchtop to help you line this least untill it become almost second nature.

B) The drill axis is dropped JUUUst below horizontal. This will ensure that your soon to be ground drill lip will start with a "smidgin" of cutting clearance.

(Ideally, and certainly for a beginner, the grinder rest should be set dead radially to the wheel center and about half the drill diameter below the true center of the wheel)

C) The two cutting edges of the drill..the straight, sharp bits, formed by the junction of the flute and the back face (the only bit you grind), should be horizontally disposed..with the edge uppermost on the side closest to your left hand..the othe sharp bit of course, pointing downwards (Jeeze this would be a lot easier with a sketch pad)

This I will call the SET or START position!

NOW, move your left hand for the first, last, and ONLY time during th is whole exercise. GENTLY ease the cutting edge towards the spinning wheel, carefully maintaining all the angles and orientations of the SET position..until the cutting edge is JUST shy of touching the wheel. If you listen carefully you will hear the tone of the entrained air, whistling through the narrowing gap. You will hear a subtle but distinct change of tone JUST, I mean Just...a couple tenths of a thou BEFORE the edge touches the wheel. STOP!!! FREEZE!! DO NOT MOVE!!

Now, press the knuckles of your lump of clay..sorry, your left hand FIRMLY down onto, into and around the grinding rest..establish a "Groove" on the back of your hand as well as between your fingers.

We are now ready to grind, Your left hand locked to the drill and grinding rest is otherwise quite relaxed..letting the drill slide, twist and tilt wherever your right hand and the groove in your fingers tell it to go.

The actual grinding is a bit of an anticlimax.

You have previously studied a new drill point, you have read about clearance, and cutting angles, and rakes and......

With the RIGHT hand in control, gently, kinda, lean forward... bending or squeezing your arms hands and body..rather than actually moving them..untill you take up that last couple of tenths and the wheel begins to cut. Let it cut..don't force it, and dont' rush really won't hurt anything if you take a full minute Per pass per face. YOU and your "Bionic Darex" are totally in control of that drill and the wheel..Forget the times when, close to panic, you swung the drill wildly past the wheel, hoping to get "the dirty deed" over with as quickly as possible.

Take your time, enjoy the moment, THINK about the shape you are trying to generate. Just the one face is left to "Interpretation"...every other aspect,angle, facet, what have you...Has ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF!! and is locked in place under your control!

The right hand should perfome a "Lower Quadrant sweep" for want of a better term..An observer behind you would see your hand move from about 17 minutes past the hour on a clock face, to roughly 25 minutes past. But it isn't a smooth arc of a circle, more a sector of an elipse..You see, as your hand starts to drop slowly, you are also rotating the drill in "the groove"..the first third of the turn needs to maintain that very slight clearance angle on the cutting edge, and not increase it too rapidly.

You need the clearance to cut..But too much at that point will WEAKEN the edge, and cause the drill to snatch and chip...So the first part of the rotation is ALMOST but not quite, just as though you were grinding a straight cone point on the end of your drill. Only as you approach the second third, does your right hand start to noticably drop..kinda "Catching Up" on the rotary motion...increasing the clearance as it does.

In the last third of the rotaion the right hand drops quite rapidly..Thogh not enough to catch the OTHER drill lip on the wheel..that lip is coming around quite rapidly by now.

Above all, take your time, if it helps, move the drill one degree at a time, and think ahead what shape or angle the next degree of cutting face needs...Remember, you have control, and IT ain't going nowhere 'til you decide.

After a pass on one face, flip the drill in your "Bionic Darex" DO NOT MOVE THAT LEFT HAND!!, return to SET position and repeat, the pass on the other face.

Having done a couple of passes on each is now time to check the results on our homemade "Optical Comparator"

(Sorry Jim I couldn't resist!!) ;^)

Rest the center hole in back end of the drill shank, on the center point of the "Comparator" and use, first one and then the other drill lip to scribe a light line on your whitewashed (OK Blue or red dyed) surface.

You will readily see if the lines coincide..if the lips are even..or not, as the case may be.

Lets assume they are..Now look directly DOWN on the end of the drill to check the clearances. HUH? How can you check radial clearance by looking it staight in the face? Surely you need to look at it sideways?

Well no you don't...for once all thos interacting and confusing angle and faces and clearances are going to work together in YOUR favor and make what could be a tricky bit of metrology..quite simple. While we are looking at the end of the drill, we will also check that the POINT ANGLE is correct too!!!

(Ok guys, leave quietly..teenut has finally lost it!!)

No really, trust me. IF you look straight down on the point of a well sharpened, standard drill, you will see the two cutting edges, joined by the CHISEL edge which crosses over the web of the drill The angle fromed by the chisel edge to each cutting edge, should be ABOUT 50 deg...anywhere between 40 and sixty is ok for a first attempt. (I can hear the purists and theorists screaming and lighting up their flame throwers) But believe me, get it in that ball park and your drill will CUT. If the angle is too don't have enough clearance...negative clearance will give you an angle event greater than 90 deg. Too MUCH clerance and the angle will appear too shallow!

While looking at the end, check the point angle, How? Look down the axis of the drill at the cutting edges. Are they straight? If so, your point is pretty close to the right angle (As designed for that drill, by its manufacturer when he set the helix angle and the cross section of the flute) If the edges appear CONCAVE the point is too flat and if they appear CONVEX, the point is too "Pointy"

If your drill passes all these tests, which take but a second or two to perform, THEN IT WILL CUT..pretty close to size, without chattering, chipping, overheating, wandering or seizing. I guarantee it!

Hey, thats a pretty good start for the first drill you ever ground! All it takes now is a bit of practice for it to become second nature and almost as easy with a little 'un or a big 'un!

Hey guys!

My apologies for "goin'on" but If it helps just one person to pluck up the couragre and go hand sharpen his (or Her) first drill, by hand...

Then I hope you will bear with me.

It is late, I am tired and I am not even going to proof or spell check this,

'night all


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Karl Townsend


I like to think teenut is somewhere putting out stars, planets, galaxies, and the like in God's Intergalactic & Eternal Creative Welding, Fabricating, and Machine Shop.

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John Husvar

Thanks for that. Nice post.

I wish I was here when he was......

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Dave Lyon

Dave sez: "Thanks for that. Nice post.

Yep! RCM lost a lot when teenut left. I don't recall ever seeing a post of his where he bragged about how cheaply he acquired something on ebay. He never sought to use RCM as a bulletin board for crap he hoped to sell on ebay or used it as a "design forum" to get help from well meaning RCM'rs on some half-assed project. Teenut's principal project was sharing his vast storehouse of metalworking knowledge. I'd like to have seen his reaction to those that post friviously on RCM just to see their names come up. Don't tmisunderstand me on this. Teenut was quite the taskmaster, also. He put me "in my place" on several occasions when I was clearly out of line.

Bob Swinney

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Robert Swinney

Quite the grouch on occasion, he and I had words now and then.

A very smart man though.

To Robert.


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jim rozen

Jim sez:

"A very smart man though. Quite the grouch on occasion, he and I had words now and then."

tsk, tsk, Jim! "Curmudgeon" might be the better word; in its tamer definition where it means more like "loveable and smart grouch", sorta like Andy Rooney on TV..

One of the final tributes paid to teenut was when he lay dying and posted on RCM in a veiled query about how he was regarded in that venue. It went something like, "I'd rather have an ass-eating from teenut than a blessing from the Pope, any day".

Bob Swinney

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Robert Swinney

I'm far more grateful than I can possibly express that I was.

He is, and ever will be, very sorely missed.

Thankfully, his posts live on through the magic of Google:

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Yep - The center of Jupiter has a core of Metallic Hydrogen - Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the cosmos.

He has Hydrogen fuel and Metallic Hydrogen to forge with!

Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

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To teenut. (Takes swing from bottle of Nukie Broon" saved for the purpose.

I do miss him.

Finishing his oversized Mauser actions.

Salud!, DoN.

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DoN. Nichols

Well guys, here I am. Five years ago today, we were raising our glasses at Robert's Celebration of his Life. This is Ellen Bastow Bratton, the late Robert "teenut" Bastow's wife. It was 5 years ago on Jan. 11, that Robert went to assist God with metalwork that had to be done. Don't you know that teenut has tried to put the Man straight a number of times!!!! I am doing great! My husband, Dave, is the reincarnation of Robert. He also has a way with words. Thanks to all of you that remember Robert. I think of him everyday. I find myself talking to him all the time. I just wish I could hear his views on all the stuff going on in the world today. Boy, would he have an opinion. Anyway, thanks for the memories. Take care, and will check in again. Ellen

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I am glad to hear that you are doing great.

Hmm ... is he also a metalworker? If so, does he participate in this newsgroup?

We'll look forward to it.

Enjoy, DoN.

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DoN. Nichols

Good on you, all three of you!

Mark Rand RTFM

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Mark Rand

Scary how time goes by so quickly. As it happens, the evening I learned of teenuts passing, I was making a pair of centre finders for use with my drill press. Every time I use them now I am reminded of teenut. Can't believe it is 5 years ago. Sheesh, at this rate, one of these days I am going to wake up old.


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All the best to You. Live life to the fullest!

Steve R.

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Steve R.

Like they say, "I'm much too young to be this damn old."


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