How much would it cost?

Like I said in the description, it can be whittled out of scrap. It's not a critical piece, but a decoration.

Steve

"Gunner" wrote

I was too busy answering flaming anal retentive machinists.

Steve

My old man was a machinist. He was a flight engineer during WW2. I bet he could have nailed it in ten seconds.

Steve

Been there, done it, got the t shirt. Everything starts with an idea. I wanted a guess from an idea. I did not want a price. A price is something you would stick to.

If a man says, "that will cost between ten and thirty dollars per item", how can the other hold him to a specific number?

That would be ludicrous.

Steve

I don't want to get into the middle but I just looked at your original post and the very first sentence was "How much would it cost to ..."

words are slippery

SteveB,

You are a million laughs. After reading a lot of the posts, it seems if you yourself had any knowledge of metalworking you would already have an idea of "how much would it cost". Otherwise, how are you going to know whether you are being ripped off?

Do you suppose ANY of your future questions will be answered after you have discredited and disrespected -everyone- who had attempted to answer your poorly-worded questions?

Enjoy your karma. You've certainly earned it.

--============================================-- Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. ---

I can't find disrespected in my dictionary, maybe in the Ebonics version...

And yet you're a dumb ass. You sure he was your father?. Too bad he could have only spent 10 seconds nailing your mother...

Ya think?

Sometimes, it is just fun to tease the dog ........

Steve

Ahhhh. Now racism raises its head. The true nature of the beast is appearing ..........

Steve

"Rick" wrote

Thanks for sharing, Rick. You are really a member of the group, aren't you? Perfectionists. Honest men (Laugh!) Non racists.

Welcome.

STeve

Let the record show that Gunner wrote back on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:14:11 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :

Shop I'm in, we run a lot of arrow space. Aluminum. 8 to 12 thousand RPM, feeds in multiple inches per minute. Parts by the metric butt load. And there is Wang, sitting there watching the machine slowly turn (143 rpm), slowly move (minutes per inch) as the machine roughs out a titanium skid plate. Waiting for the inserts to need changing, and then maybe the part will be done before the end of shift. James says he wouldn't mind working in titanium, he just wants either a laptop to play solitaire on, or on of the little Robomills to crank out parts while he waits. (He's not all that happy with the new hiring. Whereas before, he had four machines to setup, run and tear down, now he's only the one, and there's too much time spent waiting for 'sign off'.)

It is indeed easily imaginable to an experienced metalworker -- along with the many ways in which it might be made that could differ significantly from your imagined result.

The problem is that we've all been bit by responding to requests for a "simple SWAG" -- and then being told, "no, that isn't quite what I had in mind." The intent is for you to figure out exactly what you have in mind rather than have somone else spend their time making things for you to review and reject. Metalworkers usually are expected to make things that fit and work. That may not be the right approach here.

More in the spirit of your request, drawings are bad because they limit the creativity of the person making the parts.

If you agree to accept (and pay for) anything that fits your limited description (whether you like it or not when you get it), you might get more responses. You'd buy them as they come if you agree to a price. It would be square on the ends, be more or less cylindrical in the middle, and have some flutes. Two or more counts as "some", and nothing yet sez they need be evenly-spaced or straight, nor that any two pieces resemble one another in appearance. The flutes might only be .010 deep, but flutes are flutes! A few swipes with an angle grinder would get that done quickly enough and would meet your description and spec. It won't be dead straight nor perfectly concentric because nothing is, the only question is how bent and wonky it might be. Doesn't matter here.

The parts may not look much like you imagine them, but you'd still buy the lot if it fits your limited description. As Gunner noted, only you know what you imagine; others only know what you describe. Not having to resemble a drawing or sketch to get paid makes things easy.

Home builders and remodellers are very good at dealing with such requests. They quote a price ... and then every change or additional constraint added later raises the price beyond what's already owed for work done and materials used to that point, plus cost of any necessary demolition to accomplish the desired change.

Most metalworkers aren't accustomed to having customers as obliging as you seem to be -- and will prove to be when you pay for anything that matches your limited description for a price you agree to pay per piece.

Welcome!

How can you fail to "make good" on a loose spec with no drawing -- provided that the customer accepts and pays for anything that matches his limited description, whether or not it matches his notion of how he imagined it might turn out?

If you asked a woodworker to make a "thing" that's about 1" square on the ends, kinda round in the middle with some lengthwise flutes in the round part, I bet that's all the specification she'd need to make it.

And of course, Steve, you must be sure to blame EVERYONE in the group for the actions of one individual as if the group was a single individual. That'll make it easier to console yourself with the idea that the entire group, or should I say "beast", is unreasonable and that you are merely its undeserving victim.

Does it really make you feel better being so intellectually dishonest? I'll bet it doesn't. Not really.

Of course. I like you.

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

Actually..thats what they are paid to be. Occupational requirement.

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

Let the record show that Gunner wrote back on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:33:37 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :

"About that far." Or just before the point where it starts to become down.

"Doobee, do down, down."

tschus pyotr

Who is up past his bed time, he can tell because the sun is about to be "up".