Interesting pig roaster

Ignoramus28671 fired this volley in news:QtWdndPK6qd3LsnRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Ig, other than wasting a tremendous amount of heat and potential flavor- enriching fat-smoke, what's so great about that?

It's just a brazier with a rotisserie, and a wasteful "non-barbequer's intuition" way to roast a shoat.

Close it in, and you build half the fire, capture all of the smoke, and produce a superior end product.

LLoyd

Simple for a welder to make, and I see those motors a lot at yard sales. I have two that I bought for tumblers. $2 each.

Steve

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I actually agree with you. But the result is awesome. We are just about to start eating this pig right now.

I will try to make one. Need to find cheap 10 ga steel sheet though.

The motors, this low RPM (5-8) are hard to find actually.

If I had bought all I had found at yard sales, I would have about 25 by now. After I got two, I quit buying. But at a buck or two apiece, they are hard to resist, knowing there's a potential project there.

Steve

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Ignoramus28671 fired this volley in news:2v-dnfcIL8WMKsnRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

The "result" can be had in any open brazier, or even in a large enough oven.

"REAL" barbeque requires 1)low, long heat, 2)capturing of the wood smoke and fat smoke, to allow it to re-condense on the meat.

A shoat that small is delightful no matter how you cook it (short of boiling), but can be so _extremely_ enhanced by proper cooking to make eating it almost an orgasmic experience.

IF I were to make an open brazier/rotisserie for a large cut like that, I'd make it like the American Colonial braziers that had clockwork rotisseries (of course, mine would be electrical) and held the meat close in front of a vertical fire box. Such an arrangement prevents fat flare- ups that do not enhance the flavor, but only add a burnt flavor. A decided advantage to the vertical fire boxes (with charcoal) is that one can add fresh fuel without smoking the meat with the residues of incompletely-lit coals, which are harsh and resinous in flavor.

Fat smoke improves flavor. Burnt fat residue on the cut of meat does not. "Browned" fat, on the other hand, is a delicacy.

If you're not trying to capture the smoke, then prevent the fires from reaching the meat, at all; cook only by radiant heat, not by fat fire flare-ups.

You may have guessed, I'm a barbeque and grilling fanatic, and distinctly HATE anyone calling a grill a "barbeque", which it ain't. T'ain't a brazier, either, which is what you showed. Each has its merits, and its limits.

LLoyd

DC motor with a pwm controller should get you in the range. With variable speed you could experiment with a variety of different meats, poultry, fish, and veggies. Bodine dc gearhead motors used to be fairly cheap on ebay. CNC cooker ?

Best Regards Tom.

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actually..its pretty plain.

The boys around here tend to make em a bit more flashy....

Perhaps you could make one like 1/3 Lubyanka Square?

The meat would go in ...and come out burned to a crisp.....

Gunner

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Rotisery (sp) motors are found at many thrift stores. Or simply make a few gears on your mill, link them with a chain to a motor protected from the heat under the bbq..and Voila!

Gunner

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A real pig roaster is made out of a fuel oil tank cut so you have a hinged cover. Then you have a couple propane burners protected by a couple discs from a farm implement.

Image of a tank.

Mounting it to any sort of trailer so you can move it easy is a plus.

My coworker cooks pigs for $150 or so + consumables on the side.

Wes

Gunner Asch fired this volley in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

gunny... Again (ig almost said it right when he called it a "roaster")

What he showed: That's not a grill. That's not a barbeque. It's a brazier.

(Ig... roasting takes place in an oven or a pot placed on a fire)

OTOH... KEWl! I want one!

LLoyd

Wes fired this volley in news:I745o.407882$ snipped-for-privacy@en-nntp-11.dc.easynews.com:

Wes... that might be the colloquial way where you live. There are _many_ ways to roast that pig properly.

All require a vessel which acts as an oven, along with a way to provide a fire that usually heats the oven indirectly so flare-ups can't occur, and never using anything but wood or charcoal for the initial cooking/smoking (although propane is variously "acceptable" for the "sustain" part of the cooking).

LLoyd

There has been decades of Internet fighting now over the term barbecuing. Real barbecue is just that, low and slow. Most people consider grilling or braising to be barbecuing, and the nomenclature and terminology are now generic to all but the purists.

I have been seeing quite a few motors lately, and even the skewers with the central long square rod, all together. I think I shall buy the next one I see, and make a slow cooker. With the indirect low heat, you just put it on, and come back at dinner time. I have a Brinkman smoker that I love. You look on the chart. So many pounds of meat gets so many briquettes, and so much water in the water tray. You get the charcoal going, put the water in, the meat on the top grill, put the cover on, and come back when it's done. I have done many a killer Thanksgiving turkey, standing rib roast, prime rib, and brisket in them.

Steve

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Yes, and no, because you lose on the power. I am glad that Steve B finds so many low RPM gearmotors. I never found any. I can buy one from Steve if he wants to part with one. I need 5-15 RPM.

I can make my own custom sprockets now with CNC.

Really creative. Very awesome stuff.

Yup, I is a country bumpkin.

Smoking would really add to the flavor. I love smoked meat. First time I had something smoked, Uncle Carl bought a smoked Coho on our way up to Canada. Damn that was good eating. Screw McDonalds.

I have a rule, I don't argue religion or BBQ. Political arguements are far safer ;)

Wes

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Were I building something specifically for roasting pigs, I'd be dispense with charcoal or wood for heat (provisions for smoke of course), and get 4 or 6 replacement LP IR rotisserie burners for grills and fire then at a 45 degree angle up at the spit from either side below, with drip containment below, angled to lead to a 5 gal metal grease pail below at one end, and a couple 20# LP tanks below. Lid provisions of course, probably something rotateable and stoppable in any position so it could be used in wind break mode vs. full cover mode as needed. I'd also consider a 12V or 24V drive motor and a couple batteries below so it would be operable anywhere without any need for power i.e. middle of field.

In our area of central PA, they make them out of old 275 gal oil tanks. They split them lengthwise and hinge them. You of course can't use an oxy-acetylene torch because of the explosion hazard of cutting a drum formerly containing a petroleum product. They must use a sawzall or a nibbler. I never spoke to someone who had made one, but I dimly recall someone telling me you had to burn out the old sludge before you could grill with them.

RWL

Yes, but unless they are particularly large, it's cheaper and easier to just buy them, Tractor Supply and similar have common ones retail cheap, and Surpluscenter and similar have full lines cheap for the ordering.