Interlock locks to be used in lieu of transfer switch

You're right. Somebody either has a hardon for HD Canada, or they only have a couple working neurons.

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Michael A. Terrell
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Rachel Carlson did the world an injustice and in the long run did more harm than good with her book on DDT. The biggest problem with DDT was that it was over used, applied way to heavy and it did cause some problems because of it but they could have been prevented by proper use.

You want to kill fleas..... one application of ddt will wipe em out completely. All the other stuff doesn't work half as well even with a heavy application.

John

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john

I guess you know about the Loonies here then.

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Solar Flaire

OK y'all got me now. What is SDS?

I don't necessarily agree with switching all conductors in all cases and I think it is for the reason you have stated. I am not positive on this one but I think there are no exceptions, bonded or not.

If the neutral is never bonded then a back feed can never happen...hmmmmm. But then if a conductor isn't bonded then it requires overcurrent protection, isolation and must be continuously ground detected too.... they win.

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Solar Flaire

Schematics for a piece of metal sold as ian interlock kit by Square D?

Try to keep up.

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Solar Flaire

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Solar Flaire

What do you expect for minimum wage?

HD opened here with all these "trade experts" in every isle. They thought they would clean up the market. many long term building supliers closed down for fear they would never compete. Five or six years later, HD has no experts left, not even the industrial accident ones. You can't get anybody to serve you, let alone know anything about a trade tip. The plumbing isle has a guy that has heard of PEX pipe and another that doesnt know the difference between PEX-AL-PEX fittings and even one of the 6 different types of PEX fittings, if you can find him not busy in the shingles sales isle.

..and you want them to know and understand the electrical safety code too? Most of them are having a hard time knowing that a 1/2" knockout isn't a physical threat.

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Solar Flaire

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Solar Flaire

You need to hire a new comedy writer. I hear that Jeff Foxworthy does comedy eulogies.

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Michael A. Terrell

Is complaining all you can do? HD's firsrt stores were near me, and they had good people for well over a decade. The local one has several part time retired electricians working there, as well as plumbers. The give basic advice, but on complex jobs they tell the customers to either hire the job, or talk to the county inspectors before starting the job. They know what they stock, and how to use it. I guess HD Canada isn't able to find people like this for their stores. Other hardware and building supply chains are long gone that tried to compete against them, and none of them are missed.

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Michael A. Terrell

Separately Derived System. If that term is not familiar to you, code is not your strong point. That is another source of power that mimics a utility, in particular, one with the ground and neutral that are bonded. You can also connect a generator with ground and neutral that are not bonded. In that case the bonding jumper in your service with accomplish the same thing and you do not switch the neutral in your transfer equipment. In any case you want one and only one bonding jumper in the system at any time.

This has to do with parallel grounding paths and has nothing to do with backfeeding the grid. Your double pole double throw switching device does that. and it can legally be accomplished with 2 breakers that are mechanically interlocked. The code does not specify things that are legal or illegal. The only requirement is that each path is mutually exclusive.

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gfretwell

"Michael A. Terrell" , HAS blest us all with:

Not an option for Gymmy Bob, unless it is on a pro bono basis. /sarcasm

Tip..you will need to do a lot more to hear a GB eulogy. That Golden info you posted is useless. You need:

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Golden illusion is just one of a few 'tricks' this moron has down pat, as a MO. GB also runs a Shaw account, for starters. Some links that will help the uninitiated.

cheers

Ln

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Lectron_Nuis

It's identical. Why do you (and some others) continually assume that Iggy and the occupants of his dwelling would go out of their way to circumvent a safety device. If you are that paranoid you should note that the referenced interlock can be defeated with the use of a screwdriver, coin or suitably sized cutlery. Iggie's solution, when correctly implemented, cannot be defeated anywhere near as simply. Get it?

Mark Rand RTFM

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Mark Rand

So you just threw the term in to confuse the issue then?

US code is not my strong point. Most of the weird stuff will not pass in Canada where the standards are classically higher.

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Solar Flaire

"Solar Flaire"aka Gymmy Bob//JP Bengi//Pizza Girl//Piezo Guru , dribbled the ball in with:

Another 'one' that isn't covered in Popular Mechanics, huh,, Gymmy Bob

List what is :-/ This confession says it all.

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You are not capable of sitting back and _reading_ the garbage you publish but be assured those who stumble on your shit do shake their head in awe. "classically higher" ??...WTF sort of fsckn Engrish is THAT !! LMAO

And. Your lapse into dyslexia is noted. Must be a hell of an evening you are having there..arsehole

--------------- Message-ID: [..] I am glad you trust the slaes people at HD. I can read.

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...enjoy thumping that keyboard

/smirk

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Lectron_Nuis

Since you asked.

Most of the management are USanians and do not understand a higher ethic required. They order what the mothership tells them to order. If they get it wrong too often they become drive through attendents at McDonald's

Nobody can blame them for where they are born.

I am glad you trust the slaes people at HD. I can read.

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Solar Flaire

No it is the deciding factor when you are deciding about switching the neutral in transfer equipment. I am a US inspector but I do have collegues in Canada and I bet if I ask them they will confirm that CEC rules on SDS and neutral switching are basically the same.

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gfretwell

Did your mother have any kids who lived? You can't be as ignorant as you appear, and still be alive. Corporate purchasing is carefully tracked, and the store stock is based on what sells. If the equipment was not up to code, it wouldn't pass inspection. They 'hide' it to keep brain dead DIYers like you from killing themselves.

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You can't write worth as damn.

BTW, what kind of fairy name is "Flaire"?

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

Most power companies require "visible disconnect" switches so the lineman can visually check that the home with the generator is disconnected before he start working on restoring the power to the line. Seems like at least one lineman has died in every major storm related outage in my region while repairing lines. Don't think all of these were generator related. Linemen are working 16 hour days, 7 day weeks during major events, and like most of us, make mistakes. Your switches may cost a life. A lesser problem is the generator may cause the power to trip a breaker or blow a fuse somewhere else on the line if your disconnect switches aren't working properly.

Without this disconnect, your power may not be restored during an outage. I've been told they will not work on the line until the switches are upgraded to meet the current standard. Since you have a generator, you might be willing to live with this. But your neighbors may decide to go to court if they suffer damages due to your safety compliance.

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cmiles3

According to Solar Flaire :

Weren't you saying something about reading comprehension?

Nonsense. I'm not sure whether you're living in a alternative universe Canada, or are unable to tell the difference between HD and Canadian Tire. Or, with the rant about usians, perhaps you're confused between Walmart and HD. Or, perhaps you work for Rona.

I have had no problem _ever_ getting expert advice at HD (in contrast to most other places) at any of the Canadian HDs I've gone into. The one nearest us proudly displays a listing of their "experts"'s names in the electrical/plumbing isles, how many years (usually decades) they've been in the trade, and which of them are on duty at the time.

You're following the wrong one.

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Chris Lewis

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