Is this "gold chain" fake?

May 13, 2004 29 Replies

So yer a professional troll, eh ???

FYI:

Its a black thing and probly has six or more wires on it, at least four are gonna be fairly heavy gage, and you gotta make damned sure ya get all the wires back in the right place, else POOFT!!!

I still say there was probly just a bug stuck in it.....

BTW:

Hows yer foot doing ???

This is the most common test in pawn shops btw.

Gunner

"A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden." Strider

wore off, then the base metal is most likely

A lot of it is also plated silver, oddly enough. From my days working in a pawn shop, I was told by a guy who really knows the business, that a lot of heavy silver jewelry was made, then when the price of silver went into the crapper, they had it gold plated. Gives a feeling of heavyness, and the scam part was to say it was 100% precious metal. He cut a link in half and showed me the silver center. (he was a superior jewelry repair guy too)

Gunner

"A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden." Strider

Thank you gents. I will try to find sulfuric acid somewhere (Iassume that the acid in my truck battery is not strong enough).

i

Close, but no cigar. Considering karat gold is defined as 24K=100% gold content, 10K is 41.6% gold (by weight),

12K is 50% content, 14K is 58.33% content, 22K is 91.66% content. You had it right on the 18K. In the US, it is illegal to mark gold under 10K, but that is not true in other countries. Regards the alloying agent, while copper tends to be the major alloying element, the color of the gold dictates what is used, and in what proportions. Yellow gold is comprised of silver and copper, generally with a trace of a sacrificial element to keep the base metal from oxidizing, often times just zinc. White gold has no copper at all, but contains nickel instead. Green gold is primarily silver and gold. Blue comes from the addition of iron.

Harold

Harold & Susan Vordos wrote: (snip)

And if I remember right, aluminum gives you purple, but it is too brittle to work and can only be cast. Todd

Yeah, lots of other colors can be created beyond those we've mentioned, a list of which I have in my possession, a leftover from my precious metal refining days. As you stated, some colors are created at the expense of loss of ductility. You can cast the alloy, but it can't be worked beyond cleaning and polishing. Do you wonder how many people actually understand why gold comes in different colors? My experience as a refiner was that almost no one understands gold unless they work with it, and even then many don't have a clue. It was a fun hobby, and then a great way to make a living, but like any hobby that turns into a job, that's what it was in the end, and it was a happy day when I sold by refining business and retired. I'd had enough "fun" by then.

Harold

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Right - but it is solid 14K like mine (in white gold).

Plated 14K can be very thin and if the body is acidic it can strip the copper and the gold is dust by the leaching.

Martin

Just as long as it isn't an aluminum pad and a gold wire purple plague. That is purple. Martin

Right. My current supposition is that the chain was 14k plated over some copper alloy. I tried to go to a jeweler on Sunday, but the jewelry store closed down. Will try asking some other jeweler sometime.

i

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