National Park Service spitefully removes handles from water fountains

SERIOUSLY? National Park Service spitefully removes handles from water fountains

By Marshall Connolly, Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM) 10/8/2013 Catholic Online

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Investegations considered; this won't end well for the NPS.

The National Park Service has tried to close Mount Vernon, the home of George and Martha Washington, as part of the government showdown. The problem -the site is privately owned. The list of outrages against the NPS is growing.

LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Until very recently, the National Park Service was one of the least-loathed government agencies in the country. Now, with orders from on high to keep the public from visiting beloved parks and monuments the agency is developing a poor reputation.

Park rangers have very diverse jobs, providing everything from policing to the janitorial duties required to keep public parks and memorials open, safe and enjoyable. However, they have recently been compared to the Gestapo (hyperbole) as they actively work to keep people from enjoying public spaces.

According to a report in the Newburyport Daily News, tourists at Yellowstone National Park were actually detained under armed guard and locked in their hotels when the government shutdown started on October

1st. The paper explained that foreign tourists with poor English skills actually thought they were under arrest because of their harsh treatment.

When the tourists were allowed to leave by bus, they were forbidden to stop anywhere during the 2.5 hour drive out of the park, not even at public restrooms along the way.

In other places, park rangers have issued tickets to people who have ignored signs and barricades and threatened others with arrest.

At Mount Vernon, the privately-owned and managed historic home of George and Martha Washington, NPS authorities erected barricades to keep people from parking at the site. The site is privately owned and funded, but the NPS technically co-owns part of the parking lot and a bus turnaround. Of course, since it is a parking lot, it requires no maintenance. Nonetheless, the NPS is spending more money and resources keeping people out of such places than it would spend by simply allowing the public to use them.

Republicans contend that the NPS, which is part of the executive branch, is under orders to make life difficult for would-be parkgoers as part of a broader political plan by the Obama administration to turn public opinion against Republicans. Both parties blame the other for the shutdown and so far appear unwilling to negotiate.

Meanwhile, the American people are disgusted with the antics. These sites belong to the American people and nobody should be barred from entry. Notably, the citizens of this nation have paid for the maintenance of these sites by their taxes, and there is no rebate or reduction forthcoming. Since the American people are being charged full price for these locations in spite of the shutdown, they should also enjoy access.

Senior Republicans have said they may open a formal investigation into the mass closures and the barring of people from places where no significant maintenance or security is required. Small children's parks, hiking trails, and outdoor monuments remain closed despite the minimal investment needed to maintain them, if any.

It what looks like a spiteful move, the NPS even removed handles from water spigots along the Chesapeake and Ohio canal where bikers and joggers exercise as well as along the Great Allegheny Passage, just to ensure people don't get any water from them.

Instead of saving money, the NPS is expending additional resources to go out of its way to close such locations and to make people miserable.

There's really no scenario where this ends well for the NPS. First, several of their workers have lost their wages, workers are working without pay, and when the dust settles, heads will roll in subsequent investigations. The NPS is making itself unpopular with the American public, which is stewing for vengeance as the weather turns cold and bitter.

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Gunner Asch
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It seems that the "Government owned" things such as national parks, was paid for and is paid for by taxpayer dollars. The government property is the publics property because it was bought with our money. The government is still getting tax money from the public so why should our parks be closed at taxpayer expense?

Just as Obama misuses the IRS to target people that disagree with his majesty, he abuses the national park service, spends extra taxpayer dollars, to close things that are open by default, it takes money and an active effort to close. Obama voters will believe any lie Obama tells them as they have already proven by Fast and Furious, Benghazi, ObamaCare, IRS scandal, Voter fraud, and how many other things are there. Obama has one scandal to draw attention from the last scandal, the president of scandal after scandal and his supporters prove they are dumber than a "box of door knobs".

Obama has to pass gas so his supporters can breathe!

RogerN

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RogerN

Because the federal govt has not been funding these by taxpayers. The funding source that has been shut down is money that comes from buyers of US treasury securities.

Taxpayers are not paying for it and have no legitimate reason to complain when it is shut down because the funding source is gone.

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jim

Who's paying the shut-down expenses that are often higher than keeping things open?

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Tom Gardner

Not the taxpayers. That is certain.

If it means relying on taxpayers for funding, there will be no national parks and no drinking fountains and no handles. All that and much more will be gone.

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jim

Silly rabbit, taxpayer pay for everything in this country. Even, and especially free health care.

. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus

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Stormin Mormon

Individual Income Tax payers only pay 40% of federal taxes. And taxes only cover 70% of federal expenditures.

That means individual income tax payers are paying less than 30% of of federal expenditures. Now take away any 70% of federal expenditures you can think of and those income tax payers would be squealing like stuck pigs, because the simple fact is those taxpayers aren't even covering the cost of the expenditures that benefits them, much less paying for any other persons benefits.

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jim

And the part the taxpayer doesn't pay increases our national debt, and that will be the responsibility of who?

I know people like Obama are spending so much that it will never actually be able to be paid back but it's still a burden to the taxpayers and will destroy this country.

Our system has become corrupt, people vote for the corrupt politician that they believe will personally benefit themselves the most, they don't care about right and wrong anymore. We the people, the majority are immoral crooked dishonest cheats and liars. We vote for politicians that reward illegals immigrants with citizenship, reward the lazy with welfare, all to buy votes so that corrupt politicians can live their dream while destroying the country at the expense of others. Just like the greedy people that kept wanting more and more for less and made it profitable for almost everything to be manufactured overseas.

An immoral and corrupt people elected an immoral and corrupt government and it will be to their own destruction, we are watching this play out right now.

RogerN

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RogerN

No President has the authority to spend money unless that spending has previously been authorized by Congress, with certain extremely rare and minor exceptions.

The national debt, as a percentage of GDP, fell during the Truman through the Carter administration, rose sharply during the Reagan and GHW Bush years, fell under Clinton, then rose sharply again under Dubya, and continues to climb under Obama.

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Jeff M

If we start with the position that those numbers are true, it looks like there are corporate taxes and fees also collected. Corporations only get thier money by selling things to the tax payer, so that money also comes from tax payers.

The other spending not covered by taxes? Will be paid by future generations, or the creditors will get stiffed, and that will be paid by the creditors.

I'm not encouraged by all this.

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Stormin Mormon

I think it's possible that the honest voter is being out manipulated by the few who are corrupt.

. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus

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Stormin Mormon

On 10/10/2013 11:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: [snip]

Yes, it does seem that somewhat less than half of voters have been subjected to that.

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Jeff M

The individual income tax payers have been payin for less than 30% of Federal expenditures. They benefit from more than 30% of Federal spending. There is no transfer from individual income taxpayers to anyone else. That's just a bullshit story.

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jim

We all know the customer pays corporate taxes. In other words, the poor pay Walmart's taxes.

It comes mostly from the people who we are constantly told are deadbeats and don't pay taxes.

Or the Fed will pay it all. The one who definitely will not pay it is the individual income taxpayer

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jim

The evidence is certain that the taxpayers won't pay it. That is the people who get credit for being taxpayers won't pay it.

When was the debt incurred during WW2 paid down? It never was and it never will be.

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jim

Debt that "isn't paid", is paid by the creditors.

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Stormin Mormon

2009 26% 2010 26% 2011 27% 2012 32%

It averages well below 30%. It is currently too high to be sustainable. This will lead to another downturn which will push it back to around 26% again.

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jim

It's funded by the creditors voluntarily. There is no problem in doing that perpetually

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jim

Please provide the contact info for creditors who don't wish to be paid back. I'd love to open a few large lines of perpetual credit with them.

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Stormin Mormon
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No. That does not mean the deficit dropped 30 percent. The deficit is generally measured in DOLLARS. Did the deficit drop 30 percent in dollars?

Dan

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dcaster

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