oh god they f**ked up google groups bigtime

Damnedest thing I ever saw. Why in the hell did they do this? I want my old google back!!!

ACK! Or in the immortal words of Bill the Cat..."Phhhspht!

What happened, did Microsoft buy google groups while we weren't watching? I've generally liked Google and google-designed user interfaces up to this point, but the Groups beta sucks big-time! Give us back our easy-to=use and easy-to-read groups!

Bleah!

Bob

If you read their "About Google Groups Beta" article, it sounds to me like they're trying to erase the advantages Usenet has over web-and-email groups/lists. So they've dumbed down the interface to make their mailing lists seem like a good idea.

Blink blink...why not simply use Usenet and avoid the retarded (at best of times) Google groups interface?

I recommend Agent news reader btw...Thunderbird isnt bad either.

Gunner

"I mean, when's the last time you heard of a college where the Young Republicans staged a "Sit In" to close down the Humanities building? On the flip side, how many sit in's were staged to close the ROTC building back in the '60's? Liberals stage protests, do civil disobedience, etc. Conservatives talk politely and try to work out a solution to problems through discourse until they believe that talking won't work... they they go home and open the gun cabinets. Pray things never get to the point where the conservatives decide that "civil disobedience" is the next step, because that's a very short route to "voting from the rooftops" Jeffrey Swartz, Misc.Survivalism

if you read the OP - he was talking about the Google search for old threads on Usenet - a very excellent service indeed

Dale

back in the '60's?

go home and open the gun cabinets.

"voting from the rooftops"

At the time of posting, Google.com.au hadn't made the change. Same old format.

Y'see, we Aussies don't let no darned corporation push us around, no siree Bob!

hehe

-- Jeff R.

I always use "Advanced Search" and it's *still* the same:

The same thing happened with DejaNews several years ago. They re-directed to google, which at the time sucked. That's when I went to Newsguy.

Jim

Yeah, that's pretty awful. Is there any other service to search the groups archive database?

building back in the '60's?

problems

they go home and open the gun cabinets.

route to "voting from the rooftops"

Misc.Survivalism

I logged on this morning at about 7:15 am ET and got the crappy new format. Just logged on at 10:48 am and got the traditional format again. I'm stuck using Google as a work around for the lack of news group access at work. Maybe the new format earlier this morning was an inadvertant premature roll out (hope).

As Mark Twain said, "Old usenet articles are like fish. After a couple of weeks, they smell."

The only thing google archives are good for is so that netnannies can go back and dredge up old shit. I prefer new shit.

HTH

Steve

Yes, it is far better to ask again how to fix the $200 bandsaw which is not cutting straight than to search the archives to see how hundreds have done so in the past.

redirects

Huh. A little more trickery to get here (had to re-register, which means entering my login (e-mail and PW) and giving them a new nickname), as well as find RCM in the first place-- a directory search for "rec.crafts.metalworking" turned up nothing, so I had to search for posts on the group. Then clicked the group index and up turned this thread, right at the top as a matter of fact. Really looks funny when Google shows a post knocking itself ;)

Tim (And hey, my sig is still in the clipboard. Well, OE is still open to RCM actually. Mwa ha ha, bandwidth THIS!)

-- "I've got more trophies than Wayne Gretsky and the Pope combined!"

- Homer Simpson Website @

Yeah, but that's a social thing. Would you rather poke buttons on the phone to find out how to fix a problem, or get right down to business with a live person?

Tim

-- "I've got more trophies than Wayne Gretsky and the Pope combined!" - Homer Simpson Website @

-=-=- From: "Tim Williams" Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: Re: oh god they f**ked up google groups bigtime Date: 2 Dec 2004 08:51:08 -0800 Organization:

I'll be darned, it actually appeared *immediately*. Looks like they actually improved it quite nicely, Grant.

Tim

-- "I've got more trophies than Wayne Gretsky and the Pope combined!" - Homer Simpson Website @

Guess what? Today everything is back to the old way. Wonder what the deal is.

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:49:51 -0600, "John L. Weatherly" spake the words:

Have you guys tried the Advanced section of that? It doesn't look very different from the old style output but the search is flaky right now. It gave me the proper search for a word when it was used in the subject header search instead of the word search, even though the word didn't appear in the subject. The difference I see are the highlighted words and names.

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I use the archives every day for getting answers to questions and reasearching old stuff. It's a lot easier to read a complete, resolved thread in a few seconds rather than asking again. Plus all the info posted by people who no longer post for whatever reason.

GTO(John)