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The thing is..that there are damned few radical conservative American Christians, and they are largely a toothless tiger. The Religious Right Boogyman that the Left uses to frighten their drones, is simply that, a vague threat.

The only thing the RR has spent much time and energy on, even when the bother to vote, is Roe V Wade, and notice how much luck they have had in getting it removed? Zero, nada, Bupkis.

When was the last time you had a group of AnaBaptists fly an airliner into a building, or suicide bomb a Chucky Cheese?

As to intolerant narrow mindedness being dangerous, I quite agree. The Left fits that description so well, its scary and they are NOT a paper tiger. Well..we are slowly removing their teeth one at a time..so maybe...

Tolerence is defined by the Left as a group that includes a Lesbian Marxist, an Hispanic Marxist, a transgender Marxist, a feminist Marxist and a black Marxist.

Gunner

"What do you call someone in possesion of all the facts? Paranoid.-William Burroughs

BUT "best" is a subjective criteria.

and perhaps only method of

"truth" is objective, at least in scientific fields, not too sure about social ones. :-)

"right" and "wrong" are again VERY subjective.

"fairness" now there is a realy loaded term. :-)

...lew...

What you say is all *true*, Lew :^). But you can determine, IMO, the truth of most social issues *if* you want. It takes time, years or more, and a lot of debate but it can be done. I answer people who say truth is subjective or gray and not black and white by giving the following analogy.

If you look at a photograph in the newspaper you'll see black areas and white areas and a lot of grey areas. but if you look close enough the gray areas are made up of little black and white areas.

Meaning that the subjective areas of truth are only gray because of our inability to distinguish the relevant issues. Whether society makes those distinctions depends on it's willingness to put forth the effort to do so.

Being fair in a debate only requires a little humility :^).

John

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So you believe in licentiousness as long as it doens't cost you anything :^)?

John

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So true :^)! Start talking religion with one and see how "open-minded' they really are. No love for their enemies there. Of course I'm stereotyping but it's a good rule of thumb. I know some very nice Marxists but they really do have a thing when it comes to religion.

John

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Does not have to be a licentiousness issue.

Fiscal conservative vs social liberal.

"liberal" does not have to mean Liberace.

In this case it might mean that yes, maybe society does have to look out for those with a wing down. The 'fiscal conservative' part means, you have to really be sure they need it before you spend the money.

Liberal has somehow taken on the connotation that you believe in the ACLU's agenda. Like supporting the bill of rights that Ashcroft is dismantling under the guise of protecting citizens from terrorism.

Disagree with the present line that the government has about intrusion into your life, and you are a liberal. In spite of the fact that all you want are the protections spelled out in the constitution. In spite of the fact that what Ashcroft is doing is putting *more* government into citizens' lives.

Strict constitutionalist used to be = conservative. Want the goverment *out* of your life used to be = conservative.

How times change.

Jim

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Bravo! Well well said!

Gunner

"What do you call someone in possesion of all the facts? Paranoid.-William Burroughs

No..those are still the goals of conservatives. The real ones.

Gunner

"What do you call someone in possesion of all the facts? Paranoid.-William Burroughs

ooh. The tellers know what I'm doing. I always ask if they get these $5's on their pay checks without being loud. Maybe a suit and an appointment to speek about a closed policy with the ahh manager? It used to be $3 , its the point. I do the professional thing everyday and don't act out frustration on cute girls in front of me.

So, what are you? I've lived diametrieally and at times think I wouldn't have liked to have ended up on maybe your plane.

I have alot of bank stories, maybe I should post them really clearly and tone them down so people like you don't get upset. I bet there where a number of people in there that have been waiting for someone to speak out. Maybe read it slower..

Maybe those are the best they have.

If the people aren't

Hey! I... aw, never mind.

I'm in the center also but had to view the page source to read it. Stupid web designers. :-( Just for kicke I did it again with my guessing how the two extremes would do it and came out as expected. Agree with Glenn on the candidate situation. :-)

...lew...

I seem to be a Libertarian, and well off the left-right "axis". ;-)

Maybe because there is absolutely no hope of one winning, so only nutballs will run for office under those conditions?

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

Hmm. "Strong" libertarian.

Although I too had to view the page source to find this out.

Jim

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As that site mentions elsewhere, most real libertarians have no interest in ordering other people around, so they simply won't run for office. The few oddballs who are libertarian in inclination, yet willing to run for office end up representing (poorly) the rest of the libertarians (who want nothing more than to live their own lives to the best of their ability; libertarians are shamelessly selfish that way).

-- --Pete "Peter W. Meek"