OT- Who's job is it?

If you believe in "one man one vote" why not believe in "one man one tax"? If all have the same vote, why not all have the same tax?

If 2 shareholders go to the shareholders meeting, and one owns 1 share and the other owns 1000 shares, do they get the same vote? Why not "one shareholder one vote"?

I would prefer to see one tax (voluntary), a poll tax. You vote, you pay tax. Don't vote, no tax. It would be REALLY hard to buy votes.

Then what was the "outstanding job"? Hitting the Control key and the "C" key at the same time?

Ah, Boortz has a little Web altar to himself, with few links to anything else, so maybe it's better described as a paen of self-adulation.

I never had anything to do with the website. They owned my words and were free to do with them as they wished.

Ed Huntress

You mean like, "Hey, I'll pay you enough to go vote, plus a bit, if you vote my ticket on the main race, vote how you want on the rest...?" I bet there'd be a ton of people cashing checks on election day. --Glenn Lyford

There is now.

Either cashing checks or getting a couple packs of cigarettes and a bottle of port.

Compliments of the DNC.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

Do your articles include links to other authors?

So you wrote blogs for pay. Ok..just wanted you to be honest.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

Sounds pretty close to some of Ed's long term and long winded narratives

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

Nope.

Nope. I write articles. Sometimes they post one on their website, but there are no links. My words are just there standing on their own, sometimes with a bibliography of published material from legitimate sources.

Ed Huntress

Of all the people in cyberspace, you're the last one who should accuse anyone else of being "long-winded." Some of your "cites" are best measured in yards of print.

Ed Huntress

Not when the poll tax was $2000. That's how much you would have to pay to support the govt. Think how much income tax you pay now!

Of course! Its a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

"Gunner" wrote

Probably not, since the federal government budget has been around 20% of GDP for many, many years.

When Forbes was pushing a flat tax, he wanted Tax = 0.17 * ( income - $27K ) . That is, a 17% rate with a $27K exemption. Now, would Tax = 0.67 * ( income - $127K ) _also_ be a flat tax? If not, why not?

-- Tony P.

Fair question. How about this for a response - The money they save by moving the jobs overseas goes directly to the bottom line as profits. Those profits increase the wealth of the company shareholders, who in turn can re-invest in other business ventures. Those business ventures create jobs and opportunities... Round and round we go.

Robert

Yep, real profitable company. Only problem is, nobody in the US has a decent job, so they can't by the companies widgets, and they sure can't invest in their stock. As you say, round and round.

That article in the NY times said it best, "the economic recovery seems to be a bit stalled because consumer confidence is down."

Seems like folks are afraid of getting fired, er, outsourced.

Jim

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Ya know at second reading on this, it becomes apparent that the correct response to this is:

Hey George, sorry to make you angry. But it's *not* your private office. It belongs to US! Keep calling all those laid off american workers "whiners" and that's a sure way to get a vote against GWB.

Now _that's_ pragmatism!!

Jim

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Not so sure about that. Certainly for those who's jobs have been "offshored" it seems that way. Since this NG is specifically targeted at a group of people/occupations who have been hit quite hard by this trend a high percentage of this group's readers may feel nothing but gloom and doom.

However, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, US Dept of Commerce data shows that real (adjusted for inflation) per capita income in the US has

*increased* an average of 2.09% per year since 1970 and for the 2000-2001 period (latest they have published data for) it increased even faster at 2.13%.

So, I think the data actually shows that the US economy is replacing lower wage jobs with higher wage jobs, not the other way around. Hence, there really is more money out there to buy widgets, invest, ...

Robert

"Siggy" wrote

Okay. So let's say you have a choice between:

1) My income goes up 10%, and yours down by 8%; or 2) Both our incomes go up 1% each.

The first case corresponds to our combined income going up a whopping 2%, the second to our combined income going up only a measly 1%. You'd prefer policies which bring about the first case, right?

-- Tony P.

overseas...

for the Chinese and Indians...

The trick is to get one of those jobs where you take 5% as the money flies over your head, going both ways.

Ed Huntress

If you ever seen an add for such a job I'll volunteer to try it out and report back to the list.

Robert