Trying to ID some tools/fixtures

I've been going through some buckets of tooling I've accumulated, and here are
a couple things I haven't been able to ID:
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First one is about 3" long, steel, has rosewood inserts on either side. Two
edges are beveled but not sharp, the other two are flat with a small groove
milled down the middles.
Second is also steel, about 5" long. Some of the holes are threaded, some
aren't. The two tube sections on either end are held on with headless screws
from the other side.
Anyone?
GTO(John)
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GTO69RA4
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Second item looks like a sine bar.
Martin
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Martin Whybrow
The first is a square. the rosewood inserts are for insulation purposes to limit distortion when handling.
The second is a sine bar.
The square can be rescued by grinding/scraping and a lot of work. The sine bar can probably be rescued by replacing the tube sections with sections from the same piece of drill rod of an appropriate diameter if there is no corrosion on the body where the tubular sections met it... probably not worth the effort.
Regards Mark Rand RTFM
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Mark Rand
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I'm new enough at this that the more interesting things are still on the foreign side.
The square's really in pretty good shape. The sine block's pretty rough, so that's probably a loss.
GTO(John)
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GTO69RA4
Mark, what is a square like this one used for? I understand insulating micrometers etc, but this? Really curious!
Jim Kovar Vulcan, Mi
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Jim
Use the salt and vinegar rust removal trick, and afterwards, stick a couple gauge blocks under it. do the trig and measure. Ill bet you dollars to donuts any error will not be of any consideration for hobby work.
Ive seen many items far worse than this cleaned up and doing good service.
Hell..if you dont want it, stick it in an padded envelope, and mail it off to me. Ill pay the shipping. Ive got a sine table, but could use a bar.
Gunner
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Gunner
Hey GTO,
First one looks like a square, and the rosewood is the grip.
The second one is definitely a sine bar. If the sine bar is any good, it won't be "about 5 inches long", it will be EXACTLY 5 inches from centre to centre of the "round tubes".
Take care.
Brian Lawson, Bothwell,,Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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Brian Lawson
Hmm ... this one I'm not sure about, but as a guess, it might be intended for checking the angle of a dovetail when scraping it. Depends on what the included angle of the beveled edges is, of course.
However, this one is quite obvious. It *used* to be a sine bar, but with that rust, especially on the rollers, and probably on the top surface (not visible in the photo) as well, it is no longer capable of the accuracy for which it was made.
The rolls should be *precisely* 5.000" apart, and *precisely* the same diameter. The roll on the lower tight hand end (as photographed) rests on a surface plate, and the one on the upper left end rests on a stack of gauge blocks built up with the help of a sine table and the knowledge that the centers are 5" apart. (Multiply the sine of the desired angle by 5, and build a stack of gauge blocks precisely that high to generate the desired angle. The threaded holes are for attaching extra fixtures to the bar, for holding the workpiece, perhaps for use in a surface grinder or something similar.
Now to see what others have said.
Enjoy, DoN.
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DoN. Nichols
The only use I know of is checking things on a surface plate with a light and an eyeball or a pair of feelers. I'm not convinced that the rosewood would do any good (although it looks nice :-)
Mark Rand RTFM
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Mark Rand

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