Welding is very dangerous

FWIW department, AZ does (as AZ does on other occasions) has a rather convoluted law about this where you can apparently vote after one conviction as long as you have paid restitution and court costs assessed. After two you can't unless okay from a judge. ACLU is on the case if any is interested.

Aw, c'mon Gunner- that's only 2 states. ME & VT.

Cool chart here-

Jim

Well I have to agree with stu.pid, based on the number of mistakes I've made in my life but slow learner and uncoordinated? I recently checked myself out in an ultralight helicopter where you can't get instruction just strap it on and find out how it flies and that does take some learning and coordination that must be acquired in less than 2 seconds. Also recently did the first flight on a newly finished experimental helicopter. Again coordination skills are paramount. Oh did I say that I played professional guitar for awhile? No there seems to be some evidence that uncoordinated and slow learning might not be true. Careless is probably a better charge on the obtaining proper protection for welding. It was 100 degrees in the shop and I didn't want to put more clothes on for just the short bead that turned into a longer job.

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Steve, sorry for a dumb question, but doesn't a regular welding helmet, protect ears already?

you haven't lived until you've had a hot spatter land in your ear. woohooie!

I'm glad you brought that up. Dingleberries in the ear can cause a tremendous medical crisis. I once welded on some dolly wheels on a motorhome for a fella. The right side of his skull was misshapened. I used ear plugs to do the job underneath the motorhome.

He told me I was the only welder he had seen use ear plugs. He used to be a pipeline welder out of the Tulsa local, and worked all over the world. Then one day he got a hot dingleberry in his ear. It went into his inner ear, and got infected. They had to remove a lot of "stuff", and he nearly died. Left him with all sorts of impairments, not the least of which was 50% hearing and tremendous loss of balance.

I use the clip style, as they hang around the neck on the spring clip, and are easiest to put on and off.

HEARING/EAR PROTECTION IS ONE OF *THE* MOST DANGEROUS HAZARDS IN WELDING AND

Steve

(snip)

NOPE!

When I was working on putting together my power hammer, doing some head height welds, I was having a lot of spatter making it's way into my helmet. Including one bouncing off my ear and the earplug in it. It may not have actually gone in had I not had it in, but that changed it for me from "Belt & Suspenders" to "Never without" for welding. There was a nice scorch mark on the plug too when I was done. I was also glad I was wearing safely glasses under there too.

Todd

Sorry Stuart..I though you were the other guy I call Stu..pid, the leftwing moron who bleeds and blusters as his masters in the DNC programmed him to do.

Blink blink...it was late and I was tired. Mea Culpa

You for SURE are not stupid nor uncoordinated! Ive been up close and personal to those nifty sky gokarts you push around in the air..and having had a bit of rotor time myself...know full well that to fly one, requires one to stand on a basketball, patting the top of ones head while rubbing ones tummy.

And besides..I like you, unlike Stu..pid.

Gunner, apologizing for his mistaken identity issue.

"Obama, raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich

blink blink...no.

Unless one is using a space suit, or full coverage motorcycle helmet while welding......

Blink blink.....

Gunner

"Obama, raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich

On 9/15/2008 10:30 AM Gunner Asch spake thus:

A fetus is not a baby, you nimrod.

No problem Gunner. I still feel a bit stupid for letting the end of that rod get me twice in the same day. If it had been two different days I could have written it off to advancing age and poor memory access.

Stu Fields the Chief Pilot of Experimental Helo Magazine. Note Truth in Advertising requires that I inform that I'm the only pilot for Experimental Helo Magazine. Note 2: Truth in Advertising is a truly anachronistic relic of the past.

Sure it is.

Are you claiming that a baby isnt a human, because its not 6', 214 lbs and can punch your jaw sideways?

Gunner

"Obama, raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich

On 9/15/2008 2:31 PM Gunner Asch spake thus:

Look: not even Antonin Scalia agrees with you. Saw him interviewed on TV last night. As strong an abortion opponent as he is, he stated plainly that he thinks Constitutional guarantees to protection extend only to what he called "walking-around" people, not unborn fetuses.

I thought that was, "Sarah Palin -- Kills moose and taxes the lower 48."

-- Ed Huntress

No it isn't.

Sarah Palin has just about exhausted her usefulness Ed. She will increasingly become Albatross II along with Albatross I, Mr. Bush, going forward. Albatross Zero, which is where we count forward from these days, is John S. McCain.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But it has a brain and beating heart. Sure sounds like a human to me.

Or a frog. Make better kids if you want fewer abortions. Otherwise your "wisdom" isn't mush more than cheap electoral politics. You don't want to do the work. You want "Government" to do it for you.

I see that the polls are creeping back down for McCain. His rolling average is back to +1.6.

That doesn't tell us anything long term, but it does suggest that the bloom may be off the Alaskan rose.

Did you see the crowd at his town meeting today? It looked like the audience for a seniors' ping-pong tournament in Utah.

-- Ed Huntress

So does a ferret fetus.

It does, once it's born.

-- Ed Huntress