What is it? Set 399

I use cross-sectional area, but I just hold it between my thumb and forefinger and eyeball it. It's too bad this thing doesn't work so well because my Mk1 eyeball isn't so repeatable and so we often end up with too much spaghetti.

My Italian aunt was quite good at it. But I knew she'd make me eat a LOT of spaghetti.

Sounds good. All you need is to find a news feed for a selected number of newsgroups. (Or set up one of those download the full newsgroup from your server and then apply the filters programs -- assuming that your server allows such.)

I can imagine that *I* am glad to not be paying for that. A single T1 is already too expensive. :-)

I remember the alt newsgroups used to be described as "Gigabytes of copyright violations". (Terrabytes now? :-)

Enjoy, DoN.

I'm using newsguy.com and am quite pleased with their (non-free) service.

Perhaps they are killing anything cross-posted (as his start out), or perhaps they simply have a very short expire time (sub 1 day), so by the time you get to it, his postings and the early replies have already expired.

Note that the "eternal-september" does not fill an old usenet user with comfort. I don't know whether you know the origin, but if not (or if other do not) it came from the earlier condition of most news servers either being on systems connected to government contractors (though usenet itself was at first spread via UUCP and modem, not ARPAnet or the internet when it came into being), or associated with schools.

The contractors had a fairly stable base of people so they rather quickly learned "netequette" and became good "netizens". However, every September, the schools had a new influx of freshmen, who dived into posting without taking time to learn the normal practices. It took a while to beat them into submission, after which things were fine until the next September brought in a new flood.

Then -- AOL started carrying usenet newsgroups for their subscribers, and the number of subscribers were a continuously growing flood (thus an "eternal September"), and it became a lost cause trying to convince people that netequette rules were good things to follow. Then they started posting in HTML and the end was there. AOL has since dropped usenet totally (as have quite a few other ISPs -- probably because of the offenses that their users were constantly committing), but others have come in to replace them.

Then comes a place which actually *calls* itself "eternal-september". :-(

Probably they turned the expire time down to deal with the growing number of binaries in other newsgroups. (Plus, if I were not following rec.crafts.metalworking, and were a news admin, I would probably turn down the expire time on rec.crafts.metalworking anyway, because of all the politics and other off-topic and flame-war inducing topics. :-)

Go to a paid news server. As I said before, I am happy with newsguy.com (check them out at

Good Luck, DoN.

The measure I use is plastic, about 3.5 x 3 x1 inches with channels across marked 3, 2 and 1 portion(s). According to this measure, a portion is 2 ounces of dry pasta. Normally I consume 2 portions and SWMBO gets a single. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

I use eternal september org, too, and I've been missing RH's initial posts for several weeks. I see we use different news readers, so that's not the source of the problem.

Earthlink only allows a partial header download, which requires the whole messages to be downloaded for proper filtering, anyway. I planned on downloading the few groups I read (~217) of which most only have a few posts a week, or month. Then filter the spool into a second file that is availible as a local news server. I have plenty of old hardware laying around that will run a lightweight Linux OS and the required software. I have a lot of 1 to 10 GB hard drives that no one seems to need, so I can use a pile in a RAID.

I get a better rate on broadband cable. Around 1.5 Mb up, and 8 Mb down for $50 a month.

To paraphrase Carl Sagan: Billions and Billions of Gigabytes. ;-)

Started out as Motzarella and used that for some years. Recall a dispute with another company over the name. No idea why they picked "eternal-september" but suspect they were amused by the history of the phrase for some reason.

I thought I had replied to this thread, but it's not showing. Nothing new has shown, for me, for any topic since the 29th, which I think is wrong.... I would suppose, by now, Rob has posted the answers. I'm not sure why newer posts/replies are not showing for me. Anyway, this is more a test, than a reply. Maybe this will update my link or prompt me to re-sign in, in order to engage in,/have access to updated posts. Nothing else I've tried seems to be working.

Sonny

I never got the answers either. I looked again through all of the messages the NewsGuy server sent me. It wasn't there.

Bill

Fruufru!!! Several spaghetti makers _print_ the measuring circles on the box.

It's been a while since I looked at one, and I don't have any on hand right now, but, as I recall, they're all _real_ close to a 1/16" multiple for the diameter.

Robert Bonomi wrote: ) Fruufru!!!

What does that mean ?

SaSW, Willem

Philski

But the growth of web-based forums, Facebook, and other such places have resulted in the "eternal" September of 1993 ending, at least for Usenet. Perhaps some Internet historian will eventually fix a date for the end.

It's an in-joke, not a slur on its users (including myself).

O.K.

Again O.K. Mostly the power cost of running say 7 10 GB drives instead of a more modern 1 TB SATA drive. (Against the cost of adding a SATA host interface to the linux box. :-)

But since I also host some web sites, the asymmetrical rates are a problem, as well as the lack of static IPs. (At least I presume that you can't get static IPs. :-)

Enjoy, DoN.

Look at it encrypted with rot-13 (which should be in your newsreader, as it is a (very) minimal encryption once commonly used to hide spoilers). Apply it twice and you are back to the original text. Certain common words are occasionally posted in rot13 on the assumption that people have learned to recognize them. :-)

If you need to do it manually -- replace each letter with the letter 13 later in the alphabet -- folding it to two copies to deal with things which start past the 13th letter.

And the "word" is misspelled anyway -- it should be "Furrfu"

Enjoy, DoN.

DoN. Nichols wrote: ) On 2011-08-01, Willem wrote: )> Robert Bonomi wrote: )> ) Fruufru!!! )>

)> What does that mean ? ) ) Look at it encrypted with rot-13 (which should be in your ) ... ) And the "word" is misspelled anyway -- it should be "Furrfu"

I knew all that already. What I wanted to find out is why the OP used that specific misspelling of that word, as I find it very unlikely he misspelled it like that if he knew where it actually comes from.

SaSW, Willem

It doesn't have to run 24/7. Just when I want to update the newsgroups. Then I can load them to my computer to read off line if I want to shut it back down.

I can, but it costs extra. It's cheaper for me to pay $6 a month to an external hosting service.