What materials to make a hardened swage

Sep 05, 2003 5 Replies

What I would like to make is a swage for studs used to hold brake drums onto the hubs. I have a 9" SB and know my dimensions, I just do not know what type of material I need other than 1" bar stock. Then what would be needed to fully harden the metal to take the pressure from a 25 ton, or a little more, press. The swage will have a .510 hole in the middle and the outside will be tapered to create a circular surface about .1" wide.



This is to make a the tooling so I can rebuild the brakes on my 1931 Model A Ford.



Thanks,



Kevin


4130 steel stock.

my 2 cents

=================================== If you're after the challenge of making it yourself, go for it. It not...they're available from the Model A parts suppliers for about $7.50.

Someone else recommended 4130...that'll work fine and should be easy to find.

Joe

Pretty much whatever you have in a hardenable steel will work for one model A.

41 30-40-50, 8620, old axle shaft, whatever. I made one for a one time brake job from some scrap D-2, worked fine. Or at least the second one did. I didn't draw the first one quite enough when I tempered it, and it cracked after about 6 studs.

Bill

Make one out of OCS (Old Chevy Spring). Both leaf and coil car/truck springs are made of some very good steel and are usually available free. On coil springs, I cut of one or so rings and heat and straighten (hammer and anvil). Heat to "cherry red" and bury in ashes to anneal. Saw/machine/grind/file to required shape. Heat to cherry red and quench in oil. Clean to bare metal and gently heat to a brown (hard) or purple (not quite so hard but tougher) and quench again.

After he broke his third Snap-on cold chisel, I made one out of truck-size coil spring for my mechanic son-in-law. This was several years ago. He says it may soon need to be sharpened.

Ted

=========================== It may well make a difference where you get them. A fellow member of the local A club got one from Bratton and brought it over to stake the studs in his drums, using my press. It did all four and still looked like new.

Joe

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