Toolpost grinding. Vaguely related to gear making.

I've spent the last three weeks knocking together a toolpost grinder. It would have been quicker but I had a nasty cold in the week before last and that slowed me down somewhat. The grinder is loosely based on some of the ideas from Prof. Chaddock, but only enough to give me ideas on what not to do when I get to building the Quorn.

I can confirm that using a home made toolpost grinder leaves the lathe in cleaner and better adjusted condition than before. The three hours to strip down and clean the saddle, cross slide, top slide etc are a bit of a nuisance though. That's even after using large amounts of oil soaked rags to catch the grot.

The surface finish I'm getting is significantly better on hardened steel than the turned finish from before the steel was hardened. It's still nowhere near good enough. I can just about see my face in it, but it makes me look short fat and ugly. I had found that the vibration from the current single phase, not resiliently mounted, motor and belts was causing significant marking of the workpiece. This was fixed by turning the mandrel using a handle. The armstrong motor causes much less vibration than the (Hoover) electric one. There is still a bit of an out of balance in the grinding wheel mounting that is causing a mottled finish on the work piece, even after dressing the wheel.

I'm experimenting with a, tuned, mechanical balance indicator. I've also got a dual channel accelerometer and once-per-rev signal detector on order to balance the setup properly. The electronic bits will either get used with a dual channel scope that I've got in the loft or, if that doesn't work any more, I'll borrow an HP signal analyzer from work.

Tomorrow I'm going to go back to manufacturing the shafts for the Hardinge apron gearbox. I'll make a couple more dummy pieces to use when sorting the grinder out and aligning the lathe tailstock. Then harden the lot and have a week or so of grinding needle roller journals to size.

Mark Rand RTFM

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Very interesting! I have decided to build one too. After I have finished some smaller projects and getting my lathe work reliable. I also thought about minor modifications to the Quorn spindle. Especially going metric () and using different ball bearings. I think I'll use 7203 (thus making the spindle itself a bit beefier). When I asked for the price of the spindle version of the 7203 (B7203C), I got shocked! They want

223,21 EUR + VAT - 50%. For one bearing! :-(

What bearings did you use? What belt?

What RPM does the motor make? Maybe that is the reason for the vibrations. Also, there are (should be) available motors who's rotor isn't slotted parallel but spiral. They should run smoother. Good point anyhow!

Regarding the distortions in the (quite) mirror finish: You need a vertical lathe!

Nick

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pentagrid

Sounds like the finish is OK then ?

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John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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John Stevenson

Just a thought - I haven't tried it yet (but intend to on my Quorn soon) - If you use diamond wheels, presumably the grinding effluent will be far less hostile to the lathe (or Quorn) - anybody got any experience?

Mike D

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Mike D

I've never felt the need to grind a toolpost...done it by accident a couple of times though

Regards, Tony

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Tony Jeffree

I was finding that the chuck jaws didn't give me an acceptable finish. Maybe I should sharpen them.

Mark Rand RTFM

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Mark Rand

None. But I *think* that with a decent vac, most of the dust -especially when dressing the wheel- gets caught. Also, I have heard that using coolant makes things better.

Nick

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Nick Mueller

effluent

If you can use flood coolant it washes away the steel particles and the grinding wheel debris, but you do need a substantial flood to avoid making a very effective grinding paste. Not really practical on a Quorn, so I agree with Nick, the best approach is to have a good workshop vac sucking away just downstream of the flow of bits. Make sure that the vac wasn't last used on sawdust or other combustable though !

AWEM

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Andrew Mawson

Those hardened jaws hold a good cutting edge...

Regards, Tony

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Tony Jeffree

They must, to judge from the chunks that they take out of the compounds on all those lathes!

Cheers Trevor Jones

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