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I have two drawing views that are not projection or auxilary. I need to show arrows at an offset datum to show the viewing direction.

With 2000i I believed I just created a cross section through that datum in space and that way I could show arrows and the other view was not effected.

WF2 won't let me create an section if it doesn't pass through any geometry. How do get around this?

Thanks in advance.

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Jason L
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Bottom line is I need to show arrows for a viewing plane and not a cross-section.

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Jason L

Have you tried creating the XSec in the model?

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Jeff Howard

Jeff,

The problem is that you can't create an xsec if it doen't pass through any geometry. I just needed arrows to show a viewing plane. It would have been fairly easy if the views were regular auxilary views and not rotated 90 degrees. You would just create the auxilary view and show arrows on the view you created it from. But say you needed to rotate the auxilary view...then it looses all relationship and the arrows as well. I got around this by creating the views I needed and auxilary views to create the arrows...then I erased the auxilary views and selected the option to keep the arrows related to it. So now my views say VIEW A-A but really have no relation to the arrows on the referencing view.

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Jason L

Hi, Jason. I'm pretty slow and am probably missing something, but do know that:

1) You can create an XSec defined by a plane that does not cut any model geometry and that 2) arrows can be shown for that XSec in any view where that plane is perpendicular to the view direction (hope I've got that part correct).

Are you seeing something to the contrary?

You can also Add Arrows for Projected views, including Auxiliary views. (I'm getting lost on rotating the Aux views.)

If you can't get what you want might try taking it to a forum that allows attachments (mcadcentral, etc.), sketch up a simple illustration / example and post it.

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Jeff Howard

I don't know why you'd want to create section, except as some kind of dorky workaround. Why not just create view arrows which you can do for projected and auxilliary views. For auxilliary views, you ckeck the box that says 'Show projection arrows'. This shows view arrows, pointing at the parent view, with the view name instead of 'Section A-A' which is what you get with sections. For ordinary projected views, highlight the projected view, RMB 'Add arrows' and view arrows get placed by the parent view. In both cases, you can drag these arrows to position them anywhere on the viewing plane, in the projection direction.

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David Janes

Jeff, Somehow I don't remember this being a problem with 2000i, but Wildfire 2.0 won't even let me create the xsec in the model since the datum is offset from the part and doesn't go through any geometry.

As for the aux view....imagine creating an aux view at a plane that is 45 degrees. You want the arrows to reference the parent view on that 45 degree angle. But then you want to show the aux view at 90 degrees with a note under it saying "view rotated 90 degrees". As far as I know...it can't be done because you would have to make it a general view and this would blow away your arrows.

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Jason L

Ok, got it.

Creating sections outside model geometry does seem to be a bit of a squirrel, though I'd never noticed any problems until concentrating on it. Definite bug material here and it doesn't seem to be related to my modified template files (a simplified version of which I emailed to you) as I thought. What does seem to do the trick is re-booting the computer (re-start Pro/E no-go, tried a few times). Dizzy and worn out. Maybe more later. 8~)

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Jeff Howard

David, It definately is some dorky workaround...I am copying an old hand drawn print and my company wants and exact duplicate in cad. That is why I can't simply create an aux view and show arrows. The parent view has to be on a different viewing angle than the child view, with a note saying how much the view has been rotated.

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Jason L

First, I'll go along with Jeff ~ a picture's worth unimaginable words, especially when words fail in the face of a difficult or unusual visualization problem.

Second, don't underrate the orientating capabilities of Pro/e ~ they're enormous. Make good friends with 'View>Orient>Reorient' and the reorientation types of Preferences and Dynamic Reorient. With these, you can reorient your model at any angle in 3d space. No appropriate geometry is available? Just create some datum geometry. Create one view, then use that to create/reorient your second. If these views are not orthogonal, so much the better. When you have a view, give it a name and save it. When you have both views created and saved in your model, your drawing problem is solved. Use the Saved views to create/place drawing views. What about the arrows. You're probably out of luck for the buit in arrows. But, so what, these are just conveniences. It's the simplest thing, in drawing mode, to fudge those in with the drafting utilities. Line weights and styles are also easily adjustable.

David Janes

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David Janes

Yup, and don´t forget to create a point at some model edge, it´s useful for attaching that hand-drawn arrow to... ao it won´t wander around each time the drawing is retrieved.

Walther

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Walther Mathieu

Not sure anything more definitive than what's already passed will come of it but you might follow

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Jeff Howard

Jeff,

Now in a different drawing I can create xsections offset from geometery......definately a bug....I see what you are saying. However, I still can't figure out if there is a way to create an aux view and the rotate the view while keeping the arrows. My guess is it can't be done unless someone shows me step by step otherwise. Thanks...all your help was greatly appreciated.

Jason

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Jason L

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