Another View on Certification

You will find Mrs. Rosenfield to be smarter, wealthier, to have more first hand stories, and to be a hottie.

Hi Melodi!

Jerry

Yup.

precisely

it will be very "hard" for me to get motors and fly HPR if TRA decides I'm too much of a nuisance. My technical competency will, unfortunately, not have any bearing on that regardless of that being its specific purpose under NFPA 1127

- iz

I'm delighted that you are trying to learn new words, Ray

think "Microsoft"

- iz

There are other operating systems on the market besides Microsoft and it was RULED a MONOPOLY.

Jerry

Pardon me. I see a massive Gordian knot that I'd like to start cutting through, and this is not the optimal place to start the cut.

What disturbs me most is the high cost of motors and barriers to entry, priamrily of MR but also HPR. I am apalled at the high retail price of MR motors. Indeed, I no longer encourage kids to get into the hobby because the cost of motors it is too high to sustain a reasonable hobby level of activiiity. Although I still think kids should get in and out quickly, perhaps with a gift starter set.

I had thought that the high prices was mostly due to bad management at Estes Ind. (e.g. the Star Wars fiasco, multi-tier marketing distribution with higher markups along the distribution chain...) However, a recent message from Anthony Cessaroni(sp?) suggests that liability insurance cost is the main culpret of high motor prices. CTI has the capability to make MR APCP motors, but they don't because the liabilility insurance premiums are too high. Now MR and even HPR have enviable records with regard to payouts from liability insurance companies, but insurance companies are infected with FUD, and believe that thier risk is substantialy reduced by restricting sales to "Certified Users". CSI only sells one MR G motor and they only do that as an easy way for consumers to get familiar with CTI motors.

Sometimes I post that I am a L0 sport rocketeer. That is, I'm a very advanced sport rocketeer who does not fly HPR. However, I think the time has come to create real L0 and L00 cerification levels of sport rocketeers. L0 would be, for LEUP free motors of

if allstate could lobby the town to do so, yes, it would make good business sense. for all state, yes.

See what your local town says about driven midget racers on the public midget track and who you have to be insured with what midget club. Life is not fair. It's run my business in capitalist places and governments in socialistic places and heads of state in directed places.

Art

I have met her. Last time I saw her was at Jerry's trial.

Alam,

send me your proposal, or if you wish you can use this as stated, and I will submit it myself as NAR 80381

or Bob K. would be an even better choice, as he is NAR 18L :)

what say you, Bob?

- iz

Thanks. This is all I have written. Please clean up the text first! Some parts could be adjusted or expanded upon, but you get the idea. The details need to be determined with input from all groups, especially the users, not a complete and final proposal from Alan Jones (15578 ,L0)

LOL, Sounds like a morning soap.

It's fun to paint conspiracy theorys, real, imagined or both. I am leaning toward the alien conspiracy.

How about the fact that most NAR and TRA fliers fly with insurance. If they started selling to non-members then they are selling to people that quite possibly have no insurance. It's simply a matter of cover your own a$$.

RDH8