Project Starlight ... and why Robert Kaplow should be worried!

Chuck

Nope not in the majority. Majority = 2/3 or 66.7%. I would suggest you read a little further by pointing your browser to:

And I didn't realize that the MAJORITY of Americans believe that U.S. Service men and women serve just for free trips around the world and college grants ... I guess we learn something new every day :)

And I am on Kaplow's side this time! We should be concerned about snooping. Snooping on RMR and snooping by our government!

....and I'll stick to the unbiased reporting stations and web sites, thanks. ;-)

Chuck

From Dictionary dot com

ma·jor·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-jôr-t, -jr-) n. pl. ma·jor·i·ties

1. The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total. 2. The amount by which the greater number of votes cast, as in an election, exceeds the total number of remaining votes. 3. The political party, group, or faction having the most power by virtue of its larger representation or electoral strength. 4. Law. The status of having reached full legal age, with attendant rights and responsibilities. 5. The military rank, commission, or office of a major. 6. Obsolete. The fact or state of being greater; superiority.

I'll make it easy 50% + 1 = a magority

Check your facts.

This is not the LCS dictionary, but a real one.

.....and I'll stick to the reputable reporting institiutions and web sites for number, but thanks! ;-)

Chuck

No I agre with the dictionary explaination, but in the context of political opinion, 51% isn't a majority ... its a little more than half. 2/3 , 66.7% is what I meant. Hope this clarifies ...

".....and I'll stick to the reputable reporting institiutions and web sites for number, but thanks! ;-) "

On that site I reference, it has a vast sampling from left to right (not directions, but political leanings). So if you are not left, not center, or right ... I guess your opinion dosen't matter?

So what say you? Instead of being ,'cute', take a stand. Lets not bicker of definitions. What is your opinion of the subject at hand? Should we be fearful of Project Starlight? Should people like Bob Kaplow have to fear these types of software data collection systems? I guess this is why so many rights get thwarted in this nation ... we spend more time BSing each other, instead of seeing and eliminating the BS that is done on us all ... oh well, time to check the sports scores ...

P.s. I took the liberty of posting a huge list of 'unreputable' institutions and websites below. What REPUTABLE sites and institutions do you use? I really would like to know :)

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 2/7-8/06 44 47 9 -3 .

AP-Ipsos * 2/6-8/06 40 57 -17 .

Pew 2/1-5/06 40 52 8 -12 .

NBC/Wall Street Journal 1/26-29/06 39 54 7 -15 .

Time 1/24-26/06 41 55 4 -14 .

ABC/Washington Post 1/23-26/06 42 56 2 -14 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 1/24-25/06 41 51 8 -10 .

Cook/RT Strategies 1/22-25/06 47 50 3 -3 .

L.A. Times/Bloomberg 1/22-25/06 43 54 3 -11 .

CBS/New York Times 1/20-25/06 42 51 7 -9 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 1/20-22/06 43 54 4 -11 .

Diageo/Hotline RV 1/12-15/06 46 53 2 -7 .

Gallup 1/9-12/06 43 53 4 -10 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 1/10-11/06 42 49 9 -7 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 1/6-8/06 43 54 3 -11 .

ABC/Washington Post 1/5-8/06 46 52 2 -6 .

CBS 1/5-8/06 41 52 7 -11 .

Pew 1/4-8/06 38 54 8 -16 .

AP-Ipsos * 1/3-5/06 40 59 -19 .

Gallup 12/19-22/05 43 53 4 -10 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 12/16-18/05 41 56 3 -15 .

ABC/Washington Post 12/15-18/05 47 52 1 -5 .

NPR LV 12/15, 17-18/05 44 54 2 -10 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 12/13-14/05 42 51 7 -9 .

Diageo/Hotline RV 12/12-13/05 50 47 3 +3 .

NBC/Wall Street Journal 12/9-12/05 39 55 6 -16 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 12/9-11/05 42 55 3 -13 .

Cook/RT Strategies 12/8-11/05 42 55 2 -13 .

Pew 12/7-11/05 38 54 8 -16 .

Gallup 12/5-8/05 43 52 5 -9 .

AP-Ipsos * 12/5-7/05 42 57 -15 .

CBS/New York Times 12/2-6/05 40 53 7 -13 .

Quinnipiac RV 11/28 - 12/4/05 40 54 7 -14 .

Time 11/29 - 12/1/05 41 53 5 -12 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 11/29-30/05 42 48 10 -6 .

Cook/RT Strategies 11/17-20/05 41 52 7 -11 .

Gallup 11/17-20/05 38 57 5 -19 .

Diageo/Hotline RV 11/11-15/05 39 59 2 -20 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 11/11-13/05 37 60 3 -23 .

Newsweek 11/10-11/05 36 58 6 -22 .

Gallup 11/7-10/05 40 55 5 -15 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 11/8-9/05 36 53 11 -17 .

AP-Ipsos * 11/7-9/05 37 61 -24 .

NBC/Wall Street Journal 11/4-7/05 38 57 5 -19 .

Pew 11/3-6/05 36 55 9 -19 .

AP-Ipsos * 10/31 - 11/2/05 37 59 -22 .

ABC/Washington Post 10/30 - 11/2/05 39 60 1 -21 .

CBS 10/30 - 11/1/05 35 57 8 -22 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/28-30/05 41 56 3 -15 .

ABC/Washington Post 10/28-29/05 39 58 3 -19 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 10/25-26/05 41 51 8 -10 .

Gallup 10/24-26/05 41 56 3 -15 .

Pew 10/12-24/05 40 52 8 -12 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/21-23/05 42 55 3 -13 .

WNBC/Marist RV 10/12-13 & 17/05 41 53 6 -12 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/13-16/05 39 58 3 -19 .

Diageo/Hotline RV 10/12-16/05 40 57 2 -17 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 10/11-12/05 40 51 9 -11 .

NBC/Wall Street Journal 10/8-10/05 39 54 7 -15 .

Pew 10/6-10/05 38 56 6 -18 .

AP-Ipsos * 10/3-5/05 39 58 -19 .

CBS 10/3-5/05 37 58 5 -21 .

Newsweek 9/29-30/05 40 53 7 -13 .

FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 9/27-28/05 45 47 8 -2 .

CNN/USA Today/Gallup 9/26-28/05 45 50 5 -5 .

ABC/Washington Post 9/8-11/05 42 57 1 -15 .

Pew 9/8-11/05 40 52 8 -12 .

Time 9/7-8/05 42 52 6 -10

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Majority = 50% +1.

I understand the issue behind wire-tapping. The government can not listen to "private" conversations. Fourth Amendment is very clear about that. The current issue wrt wire-tapping has to do with conversations that originate outside US borders. Interestingly, a *person* crossing the US border is subject to search (without requiring a warrant) but some people expect an electronic conversation to be different.

But case law has established that no search exists unless the individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy. For example, the government CAN sift through your garbage looking for stuff, as long as the garbage is an open space (like on the curb). That does NOT constitute a search and no warrant is required.

So with blogs, usenet, etc (email is a possibly exception) there should be no expectation of privacy because any casual observer can read them. If Goggle can catalog your blogs, so can the government.

Email is interesting. How well does your provider secure your privacy? Did you sign a service agreement that says you wave your right to privacy? If so, you have no expectation of privacy from non-government sources so you should have no expectation of privacy from the government.

While government directed collecti> The U.S. Government is working on a software data-collection that will

And that, my friends, is why I am now known as "Tweak" and use the X no archive option (not that it really does any good anymore). The arrival of those new sites which http and htmlize usenet posts are what convinced me, as they generally do not honor the X no archive, and a quick search of your name in google will reveal all.

That's known as a "super" majority. Next the politically correct crowd will define the term "most" people to be anything that avoids admitting that "most" people aren't politically correct.

I hate to be such a nerd but Majority is more than half, which means that if the total number of votes is ODD them majority is 50% = 1/2

Think about it!

Dale Greene

Sorry 50% + 1/2 - slow on the shift key

You can't have half a vote.

That's one rag I will never click on or read.

Actually some groups do allow half votes, but that's not the point. Let's use the Supreme Court as an example. There are 9 members, it takes 5 votes for a majority - 50% of 9 is 4 1/2 plus 1/2 is 5!

I said I was being a NERD - lighten up- it's a joke!

Dale Greene

Odd, it doesn't have the properties of a joke.

He didn't say it was a good joke.

There are definitely things to be concerned about...but one should first look at the mentality of he/she who is complaining. One who adheres to true conservative and/or libertarian ideals, should definitely be concerned. However, if one belongs to the (unfortunate) growing group who believes that the federal government should be everyone's "mommy and daddy" (i.e. handling all the parental/family/personal roles such as education, child care, health care, unemployment benefits, home loans, etc); then these people show the ultimate in hypocracy when complaining about these intrusions. After all..."parents" *also* have the right/responsibility to know who their "children" are talking to, who they associate with, what books they read, etc.