Project Starlight ... and why Robert Kaplow should be worried!

The U.S. Government is working on a software data-collection that will troll blogs, usenet, email, et. al, for 'unusual' activities ... why
even our resident 'Bush hater', Bob Kaplow might want to reconsider his accusations that military personell are only serving because they want FREE college benifits. Someone in the Pentagon, might take OFFENSE to you Kaplow!
Point your browsers to this VERY interesting Christian Science Monitor story:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0209/p01s02-uspo.html?s=hns
Like I have posted in the past, I am not shocked ... why under that 'crack up' of a pres, Bill Clinton, the Gov. was running project, Echelon, that circumvented the constitution, and collected data on American citizens ...
So while we argue over whether a woman should have control of her uterus, or should we drill for oil in the Gulf or Alaska, it would SEEM that there is a fox in the hen house, and no body seems to care ... oh well ... we deserve what we allow ...
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snipped-for-privacy@juno.com wrote:

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060210/D8FMDCI01.html
Looks like Kaplow is in the majority. Just doing a little reading.
Chuck
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Nope not in the majority. Majority = 2/3 or 66.7%. I would suggest you read a little further by pointing your browser to:
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
REAL numbers from a large sampling of polling groups :) I have learned to NEVER believe anything anyone says ... instead I verify it myself :D
And I didn't realize that the MAJORITY of Americans believe that U.S. Service men and women serve just for free trips around the world and college grants ... I guess we learn something new every day :)
And I am on Kaplow's side this time! We should be concerned about snooping. Snooping on RMR and snooping by our government!
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snipped-for-privacy@juno.com wrote:

2/3 is a landslide 50% +1 is a majority
....and I'll stick to the unbiased reporting stations and web sites, thanks. ;-)
Chuck
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snipped-for-privacy@juno.com wrote:

From Dictionary dot com
majority ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-jr-t, -jr-) n. pl. majorities
1. The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total. 2. The amount by which the greater number of votes cast, as in an election, exceeds the total number of remaining votes. 3. The political party, group, or faction having the most power by virtue of its larger representation or electoral strength. 4. Law. The status of having reached full legal age, with attendant rights and responsibilities. 5. The military rank, commission, or office of a major. 6. Obsolete. The fact or state of being greater; superiority.
I'll make it easy 50% + 1 = a magority
Check your facts.
This is not the LCS dictionary, but a real one.
.....and I'll stick to the reputable reporting institiutions and web sites for number, but thanks! ;-)
Chuck
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No I agre with the dictionary explaination, but in the context of political opinion, 51% isn't a majority ... its a little more than half. 2/3 , 66.7% is what I meant. Hope this clarifies ...
".....and I'll stick to the reputable reporting institiutions and web sites for number, but thanks! ;-) "
On that site I reference, it has a vast sampling from left to right (not directions, but political leanings). So if you are not left, not center, or right ... I guess your opinion dosen't matter?
So what say you? Instead of being ,'cute', take a stand. Lets not bicker of definitions. What is your opinion of the subject at hand? Should we be fearful of Project Starlight? Should people like Bob Kaplow have to fear these types of software data collection systems? I guess this is why so many rights get thwarted in this nation ... we spend more time BSing each other, instead of seeing and eliminating the BS that is done on us all ... oh well, time to check the sports scores ...
P.s. I took the liberty of posting a huge list of 'unreputable' institutions and websites below. What REPUTABLE sites and institutions do you use? I really would like to know :)
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 2/7-8/06 44 47 9 -3 .
AP-Ipsos * 2/6-8/06 40 57 -17 .
Pew 2/1-5/06 40 52 8 -12 .
NBC/Wall Street Journal 1/26-29/06 39 54 7 -15 .
Time 1/24-26/06 41 55 4 -14 .
ABC/Washington Post 1/23-26/06 42 56 2 -14 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 1/24-25/06 41 51 8 -10 .
Cook/RT Strategies 1/22-25/06 47 50 3 -3 .
L.A. Times/Bloomberg 1/22-25/06 43 54 3 -11 .
CBS/New York Times 1/20-25/06 42 51 7 -9 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 1/20-22/06 43 54 4 -11 .
Diageo/Hotline RV 1/12-15/06 46 53 2 -7 .
Gallup 1/9-12/06 43 53 4 -10 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 1/10-11/06 42 49 9 -7 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 1/6-8/06 43 54 3 -11 .
ABC/Washington Post 1/5-8/06 46 52 2 -6 .
CBS 1/5-8/06 41 52 7 -11 .
Pew 1/4-8/06 38 54 8 -16 .
AP-Ipsos * 1/3-5/06 40 59 -19 .
Gallup 12/19-22/05 43 53 4 -10 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 12/16-18/05 41 56 3 -15 .
ABC/Washington Post 12/15-18/05 47 52 1 -5 .
NPR LV 12/15, 17-18/05 44 54 2 -10 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 12/13-14/05 42 51 7 -9 .
Diageo/Hotline RV 12/12-13/05 50 47 3 +3 .
NBC/Wall Street Journal 12/9-12/05 39 55 6 -16 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 12/9-11/05 42 55 3 -13 .
Cook/RT Strategies 12/8-11/05 42 55 2 -13 .
Pew 12/7-11/05 38 54 8 -16 .
Gallup 12/5-8/05 43 52 5 -9 .
AP-Ipsos * 12/5-7/05 42 57 -15 .
CBS/New York Times 12/2-6/05 40 53 7 -13 .
Quinnipiac RV 11/28 - 12/4/05 40 54 7 -14 .
Time 11/29 - 12/1/05 41 53 5 -12 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 11/29-30/05 42 48 10 -6 .
Cook/RT Strategies 11/17-20/05 41 52 7 -11 .
Gallup 11/17-20/05 38 57 5 -19 .
Diageo/Hotline RV 11/11-15/05 39 59 2 -20 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 11/11-13/05 37 60 3 -23 .
Newsweek 11/10-11/05 36 58 6 -22 .
Gallup 11/7-10/05 40 55 5 -15 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 11/8-9/05 36 53 11 -17 .
AP-Ipsos * 11/7-9/05 37 61 -24 .
NBC/Wall Street Journal 11/4-7/05 38 57 5 -19 .
Pew 11/3-6/05 36 55 9 -19 .
AP-Ipsos * 10/31 - 11/2/05 37 59 -22 .
ABC/Washington Post 10/30 - 11/2/05 39 60 1 -21 .
CBS 10/30 - 11/1/05 35 57 8 -22 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/28-30/05 41 56 3 -15 .
ABC/Washington Post 10/28-29/05 39 58 3 -19 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 10/25-26/05 41 51 8 -10 .
Gallup 10/24-26/05 41 56 3 -15 .
Pew 10/12-24/05 40 52 8 -12 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/21-23/05 42 55 3 -13 .
WNBC/Marist RV 10/12-13 & 17/05 41 53 6 -12 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/13-16/05 39 58 3 -19 .
Diageo/Hotline RV 10/12-16/05 40 57 2 -17 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 10/11-12/05 40 51 9 -11 .
NBC/Wall Street Journal 10/8-10/05 39 54 7 -15 .
Pew 10/6-10/05 38 56 6 -18 .
AP-Ipsos * 10/3-5/05 39 58 -19 .
CBS 10/3-5/05 37 58 5 -21 .
Newsweek 9/29-30/05 40 53 7 -13 .
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 9/27-28/05 45 47 8 -2 .
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 9/26-28/05 45 50 5 -5 .
ABC/Washington Post 9/8-11/05 42 57 1 -15 .
Pew 9/8-11/05 40 52 8 -12 .
Time 9/7-8/05 42 52 6 -10
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snipped-for-privacy@juno.com wrote:

That's known as a "super" majority. Next the politically correct crowd will define the term "most" people to be anything that avoids admitting that "most" people aren't politically correct.
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51% is a majority in every context.
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Depends on how one defines majority. Parlimentary procedures usually define:
51% = "Simple Majority" 2/3 or 66% = "Super Majority" .... such as to break a filibuster in the US Senate
and in some cases bylaws or rules may dictate 3/4 or 75% is required to pass certain motions.
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In the context to political retoric in Presidente elections, it's a vast and clear cut victory............
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Zathras of the Great Machine wrote:

This is true. JFK said you can have a mandate with one vote.
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Alex Mericas wrote:

AH! It's interesting that you should mention JFK, since he's also a president who bought his election (I still remember as a child looking at a billboard that proclaimed his landslide victory.....in the Electorial College, that doesn't have to vote according to the voting block they "represent"...and my going "huh?" because it didn't add up in my mind). But, being a good guy Demoncrat Holy Roman (catholic) Emperor, no one wants to think about THAT. The good guys don't DO that, right?
Right. It's why I usually vote 3rd party.
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Majority = 50% +1.
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

I hate to be such a nerd but Majority is more than half, which means that if the total number of votes is ODD them majority is 50% = 1/2
Think about it!
Dale Greene
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Sorry 50% + 1/2 - slow on the shift key
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You can't have half a vote.
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Actually some groups do allow half votes, but that's not the point. Let's use the Supreme Court as an example. There are 9 members, it takes 5 votes for a majority - 50% of 9 is 4 1/2 plus 1/2 is 5!
I said I was being a NERD - lighten up- it's a joke!
Dale Greene
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Odd, it doesn't have the properties of a joke.
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

He didn't say it was a good joke.
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I actually found it informative and rmr taught me something this evening.
CD
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