Questions for TRA members

I remind you they have a lot to hide. Stuff I will never post to rmr.

Jerry

Sorry Pat & Retta I did it too. With my limited vocabulary, I can't come up with anything more accurate or less offensive to describe BK than unscrupulous liar. All I can say is that if he did what he has promised, no on ewould have anything to say.

Happy Holidays, Phil Stein Phil Stein

He WAS on the ballot.

Phil Stein

Phil Stein

Does it involve any farm animals? 8-)

Phil

Phil Stein

Point.

I find it disturbing Pat is so invested in Bruce he had the reaction he did here.

I actually find it even more disturbing his wife is in the loop on this.

Jerry

Jerry, I can't believe you are so stupid. The man all but agrees with you and you tell him "you suck". In case you forgot how you responded, look below, I have cut and pasted it for you. Every comment directed at you after that utterance, is fruit of the poisonous tree. You know, sometimes, you really are a PUTTS.

Fred

Jerry Irvine wrote: That is precisely what Bruce Kelly relies on for his continuing fraud. You sir, participate. In that particular regard you suck.

It seems to be catching.

He posted a tome about his work with TRA and I praised him HIGHLY for his efforts (and still do more than you or he knows). Then I mention the Bruce Kelly issue is a deal breaker that is breaking and he goes high order.

His disdain on that point is grossly misplaced. He should absolutely direct it at Bruce Kelly not Jerry Irvine.

As for you there is no excuse at all. You are a spectator enjoying the benefits of the rmr format and injecting yourself into our issues or discussions. Your right I suppose, but not an obligation and certainly not your business.

As such you should also not be upset if I do not put much weight on your comments on this issue.

Yes . . . . and . . . . ?

1. HPR magazine is a world class crock of s*it (Kelly).
2. PatG has irrational hope (considering ALL past experience).
3. Brucie relies on hope for continuing his confidence game.
4. PatG having hope and acting on that is participation.
5. PatG being on the TRA BOD and allowing it to continue in any way remotely associated with the TRA unbrella is participation.

I may be rude, and I openly admit it, but I am right.

Furthermore I have REPEATEDLY offered to take over HPR magazine FOR TRA and do a better job and put my actions where my mouth is. From what I have seen for the past 5 years they have nothing to lose.

Jerry

Ummmm... Isn't that PUTZ?

You opened the door and slammed it..

Say what?? There is seldom an article you do not inject something into. "Our issues or discussions", do you own rmr or have some special status that I or the rest of us should be aware of?? Boy, the answer to this should be good!! However, as you say it is my right to inject and from time to time I will

decide when it is my business, shurley not you. (I laughing so much I can hardly type)

Upset? Not likely from one who allows weight for comments from only those whom agree with you and your diatribe drivel. If you were smart, you would review

the comments from some of your usual attracters, on this issue. I'm sure you will

notice; some questioning of your comments, along with at least one comment to "let it go".

However right you may be is, most often, overshadowed by the rudeness of your supporting unwarranted personal attracts, hence "the poisioness tree"..

I see some merit in your thought process: Missing T-shirts and missing HPR issues would have but one focal, i.e. JI..

Fred

I do not control his emotions, or I at least should not.

Too bad, so sad.

Jerry

Yea, your probably right , I seem to be spelling and grammatically impaired quite often..

Fred

PhilipD wrote:

if we kill off Pat we may as well abandon Tripoli to its fate and go home. That would be an tragic waste, IMO. Terry McCreary I believe is well qualified, and I've heard some good things from Bob Schoner as well.

if this trend continues we may see reform in TRA yet. But not if we burn the new shoots before they ever have a chance to produce.

- iz

W. E. Fred Wallace wrote:

Just the response I expected; I guess PUTZ, (I've been corrected on the spelling), really fits you. Come to LDRS this year and I'll explain, in detail, it's meaning as it pertains to you, as it is not fit for rmr posting..

Fred

yep,

putz - (Yiddish) a fool; an idiot

my father, although hispanic, worked as a musician in a jewish resort hotel. His first wife was also jewish.

so what if I picked up some Yiddish?

IMO Jackie Mason is one of the best comedians of all time. This one had me laughing so hard the tears were streaming down my face!

Jackie Mason: The World According To Me! (1988)

"It's Jackie's world, we're just living in it! Legendary funnyman Jackie Mason shines in this performance of his award-winning one-man Broadway show. Join Mason as he shrewdly tackles such topics as sex, money, Israel, psychiatry, TV weather forecasts, Beverly Hills, and more. The results are a side-splitting evening of comedy that you won't soon forget."

and we can all appreciate this one:

Jackie Mason At The National Press Club

"When Jackie Mason goes to Washington, look out! Mason brings his hilarious, uncompromising insights on politics and social issues to a live show from the nation's capital and in front of some of the country's top political journalists."

Jackie Mason at amazon.com

- iz

PhilipD wrote:

Didn't he do a special on HBO or Show Time a couple of years ago? I can't remember exactly, but I was rolling on the floor. I must find the tape or DVD.

Fred

Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed wrote:

I agree. Despite his emotional instability WRT Jery-mander victim, he is one of the good guys. He just needs to put the Turner thing behind him. I met Jim several times and he was a really nice guy. I tried to do a little business with him (at his request) on terms we mutually agreed to and he changed his mind in a way that hurt me and aided TRA's smear campaign. (ie didn't just cancel an order or just return goods or just call it quits). So in a sense he died with his loyalties well served. To Tripoli :(

Jim Turner and I had several technical discussions about semiconductor bridge (SCB) igniters, and I know the co-inventor personally. I felt Jim Turner improved the art fairly substantially and I was looking forward to classifying and aproving his igniters for mass sale as well as adding some of his techniques to our igniter machine. As it is, his techniques seem to have leaked into the public domain without really properly protecting them and never getting them classified UN-0454 as ours are now.

As for Pat, he has been kind enough to "work toward" a reduction in Jerry-mandering at TRA. I have not seen any results, but maybe he has. I for one would rather see TRA simply stop asking for ATF permits ever, whether or not they ever stop Jerry-Mandering.

I would rather see them spin off Amateur/EX to an entirely different club and keep TRA as HPR. I would be willing to come to the TRA board and physically beg and grovel if they would do those things.

The amount people would pay to see that would raise enough funds to complete the lawsuit in style!

They would help rocketry generally emmensely.

PatG could spearhead them.

Point.

I see dead people.

And THIS is what I have to look forward to from some at LDRS? Abuse and violence? For expressing an opinion of an actual experience?

The truth hurts indeed.

Most people just find you disturbing.

Yes. But I disagree that telling PatG the obvious that Brucie is a serial violator is somehow "slapping back the olive branch", or that his telling me I am bad and his wife agrees because I criticize Brucie with FULLY VALID AND CITEABLE FACTS is somehow a personal attack on them.

If they are that hypersensitive and out of touch with reality, then how were they ever "friends" of mine to begin with? They were ticking time bombs of hate and vile.

Because after all, my position re brucie is a GIVEN and PUBLIC RECORD.

Jerry