TRA vs NAR Junior Certifications

Kevin,

I agree with your logic. However it places the RSO is a somewhat difficult spot if arrangements are not made in advance, as they may not want to accept the additional responsibility. If prior arrangements were made with the RSO, then the process would be nearly identical to how the Jr. HPP program was designed to work.

John

On the contrary... you have added the "junior" program as a requirement. That's new, and was not necessary under existing rules. Existing practice conforms with the regs, so why "structure" it?

I do agree that this is not the time to take on additional legal battles.

CONSUMER

That doesn't appear to be true. Manufacturers of smokeless powder and BP must have ATF permits, yet consumers are not required to obtain permits.

Exemptions must be recognized by the enforcing agency in order to be of any value.

Jerry should have an interesting reason for this. 8-)

Ray,

The Jr. HPP program is not mandatory. If father and son teams want to ignore it and fly HPR under the father's HPR certification they are free to do so.

attending launches to conduct themselves in accordance to federal, state, and local laws. One way of doing this is to provide some guidelines to the participants. I know that not all the NAR and TRA clubs fly in full accordance to NFPA 1127 and the HPR safety code, even though they are written down and copies are given to the participants. Given that, I find it difficult to believe that there is a common "existing practice" within TRA or NAR when it comes to fliers under the age of 18 using HPR motors.

John

Thanks for the correction. As I read it, it certainly _sounded_ as if it were mandatory.

participants.

Well, I can't be certain about that myself, since I don't attend every launch of every club. But from all I've seen and heard, it does seem to be fairly common for minors to fly high power under the supervision of a certified adult, with the adult putting his or her name on the flight card when necessary. (Not all launches use flight cards.)