We finally joined NAR

I agree with all of the above.

Non-member HPR certs would farm juniors into HPR. HPR is the growth element of NAR and it would be consistent with NAR's other "non-member" accessable programs. That would be major.

Any request for federal permits or even a hint or shadow of it scares away wide groups of people. This is an INTERNAL policy that could be changed. I have beat this to death so for purposes of this post that is enough said.

I have suggested cheater or subscale memberships to make entry to NAR more trivial and then interested folks can renew at full cost.

But the main point that was made earlier is most consumers do not see a "need" for NAR. Without going into details here those needs need to be explored and tested with small groups and scaled into larger groups.

Perception is just as useful as reality.

It would probably help a lot to not have some vendors blackballed while others are welcome so the level of negative noise drops. Most of that is related to the above ATF policy (as distinct from the law).

Jerry

Jerry, Did you try the ointment yet?

Yet another outright lie. Neither TRA nor NAR require federal permits for HPR flyers.

That was a sad day indeed.

I hope they'll "retire" his number.

Then again, if I understand NAR's numbering policy correctly, all #'s are auto-retired, i.e. never re-used.

Correct. TRA too at least rocketry wise.