The computer geek who created this "reconstruction" obviously never heard of the Bodkin point! Arrow head, steel, squarish cross section to give high sectional density, penetrated very well.
Bill Shuey
But these 'geeks' were MoD armourers, forensic types, scientists and all those sort of people who still make and use all this shit.
IIRC, it was the bodkin which they were testing in the field and in trials that just bent around because of the type of armour the best of which the French elite could afford.
I'll ask the locals in my television newsgroup if anyone's got a copy on video. One can only collect so much stuff or disappear under all the stuff that comes out.
Richard.
Just realised the subject title again.
Is this why East Anglia is disappearing into the English Channel ? Maybe they can rename the Channel to the 'Pan.'.
Richard.
Salt water eating the chalk away?
Bill Banaszak, MFE
If you fire them into the air they fall almost vertically into the enemy charge. Even if the arrows have slowed down from the initial push of the string they will pick up speed coming 'downhill'.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Yes and my dad knows someone who worked on the production lines, who watched them being destroyed - I wonder what happened to the traitors who destroyed the production lines?
My dad has also seen it fly!
They probably all got medals from the Socialist Party!
Bill Shuey
Did you see the documentary about it on Discovery some years ago. I think it was an hour long - and I've just found the video ready for CDR archiving! ;-)
Richard.
They also got the last laugh, as did the gentlemen who axed the CF-105, and a variety of other projects over the Cold War years, because they didn't spend the money, and still accomplished their geopolitical goals. It's galling to see really cool and potentially effective aircraft not get built, but it's a little tough to second-guess weasely politicians who happen to get it right, perhaps through no merit of their own. That's why I mute my criticism of some present-day politicos; they might just get it right despite themselves.
Mark Schynert
Must have been the "Project Cancelled" show. I just saw that one the other week and recall the TSR segment.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
I have seen a programme on the shut down Discovery Wings channel before they went bump and got replaced by Discovery woodworking in shed channel.
These old pay channels were not very good - the provider went bump then - Freeview are doing a better job.
A surprising number of people will never vote Labour as long as they live due to their traitoring over the TSR-2.
Now the scums are dropping the Sea Harrier.
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IAEWTP , but just think of the money saved when all our armed forces get issued with the white flags instead of arms or hasn't our tony started that yet?
What do they plan to replace it with? Or are they going to cashier that new carrier program next??
Bill Shuey
temporarily with RAF Harriers (no RADAR I think) eventually with the new carriers (if we ever get them) the Lockheed and a little of BAE thingy with lift fan which can't VIFF or take off vertically.
Heard rumours that these may not go into production and that BAE is looking at another Harrier variant.
Anyone also notice that the two most well known Rolls Royce jet engines are really Bristol designs (Pegasus & Olympus)
Reminds me of Bob Hope's comment when he did a command performance before Queen Elizabeth:
"It's great to be here in Britain. Used to be Great Britain".
IIRC he received a "We were not aused" comment from the Queen on that one.
Tom
You're talking JSF, and I agree - I'll be surprised if it ever gets built...
But being as there's supposed to be three variants, what would stop the RN from buying some of the VTO version that the USMC is supposed to get as well as the fast-forward-only USN version?
Harsh, but true. Hard fact is many people (not just socialistcrats) say we simply cannot afford BOTH the F22 and the F35. One or the other will have to go.
Or maybe a buy of Rafaele M? If what I hear is true about the Charles deGaulle, the French Navy isn't going to have a deck to operate them from. Seems the 50,000 ton wonder has serious problems.
Bill Shuey
For my tax dollars you could scrap both the F/A-22 and JSF. I mean, what threat is REALLY out there? And I've also been hearing lately that the xame argument that made the F-16 a seller can now be made against F/A-22 - you can buy more F-15E's and preform more and more widely varied missions for less cost.
Check this video (broadband reccomended) if you like loud music and things blowing up:
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