Did the Seafire XV ever carry conventional Red, White & Blue roundels rather than the PTO Blue & White markings? If yes, are there any decals available to suit in 1:48th scale? The kit is the Hobbycraft one, so I'm looking at an aircraft with the stinger hook rather than the earlier A-frame, Cheers, Bill.
Wish I could help but my knowledge of Seafires is woefully rudimentary. What year were the XVs first in service?
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Hi Bill, They entered service in 1945, I'm not sure whether any saw combat in WW2 as my references aren't great (otherwise I'd know the answer to my own question!). The kit's by Hobbycraft, trawled from my stash on my son's request for a Seafire, after a visit to the Fleet Air Arm Museum. It will be a ceiling hanger rather than a showpiece, otherwise I'd be concerned about accuracy of the wings. Colour scheme is everything when you're 4 years old...... Cheers, Bill.
Pretty sure they carried post war RWB roundels - they were too late to see active service in the War
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I have a number of B&W pics of RCN Seafire XVs.
The HC instruction sheet seems to me to be basically accurate for the later Canadian versions of the cam scheme. My HC decals were a bit off-register for both RN and RCN versions. Arrow Graphics produced an after-market set for the RCN version but it does not seem to be on their list now.
Earlier Canadian versions of the colour scheme were identical to the RN scheme in the HC instructions, including the large roundels with the RAF "meatball" in the centre instead of the later maple leaf. The only difference was that they had "Royal Canadian Navy" above the serial number on the tail. The kit decal provides this for aircraft PR503. I have a pic of PR504 coded B.
Cheers,
Doc H
C or D style?
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Didn't the Seafire Mk XV take part in the pacific, I even belive the did the last killing over Japan.
Early Seafire XV's had problems and were still sitting somewhere in Australia when the war ended. Last kills were by Seafire Lf.IIIs. ref. "They Gave Me a Seafire" Cmdr. R."Mike" Crosley, DSC, RN Airlife Pub., 1986 ISBN 0 906393 56 6
Bill Shuey
This book is a great read, by the way!
Bill Shuey
Hi Bill,
Possibly 'A'! - need to look it up, but early postwar Seafires carried a post war roundel whose size was based on the pre-war one.
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Hi Doc, It looks like the version I have is a different boxing to yours. The kit is number HC1521 "Pacific Theatre" Seafire XV. The 2 schmese covered by the decals are both RN types, one from 801 sqn on HMS Implacable, 1945, the other for 802 sqn, HMS Glory, 1945. Both of these schemes have the Blue/White PTO markings, though the 801 sqn aircraft has areas where the Red/Blue/White markings have been overpainted. So any advance on which roundels would have been applied BEFORE the PTO markings went on, presuming the scheme is basically accurate (I try not to presume anything)..... Cheers, Bill.
Bill, The Boxing I have is HC1584 Provides markings for RCN Ser No PR503 which is in medium sea grey unders and sides.Dark Sea Grey uppers. Also provides markings for RN PR478 with Sky unders and Extra Dark Sea Grey uppers. You have to be a bit careful with SEA roundels. Some had white centres, others light blue. The Canadian Seafires would have been purely post-Second World War Sorry can't help with markings before PTO. Cheers, Doc
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Canadian Seafires were Extra Dark Sea Grey over Sky Grey On Target Profiles Seafire volume has a selection of RN XV's in temperate sea scheme with C roundels, temperate sea scheme with D roundels, temperate sea scheme with BPF roundel & bar, EDSG/sky with BPF roundel & bar, EDSG/sky with D roundels, and one EDSG/sky with d roundels and a replacement outer wing in temperate sea scheme with C roundels. Canadian, French and Burmese XV's are also covered, (plus all the other Seafire marks) If you can't find something you like in that lot there's not much hope!
FWIW I believe Ventura put out a set of decals for 1/48 Seafire XV's a couple of years ago. Canadian schemes were included.
Bill Shuey
Another source no one has mentioned for Seafire XV paint schemes is the good old Arco-Aircam book on the Griffon Spits that had the Seafire section at the back. It has Royal Navy XVs in Grey over Sky with Type C roundels and in two-tone over Sky with SEAC (blue and white with bars) insignia.
Canadian Seafires started out as either Grey over Sky or two-tone over Sky with Type C roundels; these were just FAA schemes with the substitution of a "Royal Canadian Navy" legend near the tail and sometimes a maple leaf device on the fin or elsewhere. The later Canadian scheme was extra dark sea grey over sky grey (NOT Sky and NOT Medium Sea Grey) and distinctive RCN roundels.
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