Gerry Anderson ("allegedly") refused to have anything to do with the new
movie after seeing the draft screenplay, he is reported as saying that he
couldn't stand the thought of true Thunderbirds fans accusing him of selling
From what I've seen / heard of the previews so far, i.e. the silver uniforms
and Lady P's Rolls Royce is now a Ford, I guess he wasn't far wrong.
I hope I'm wrong and I'm sure it will appeal to the kids just as the
original series appealed to me all those years ago. I just guess our
expectations rise as we get older.
But SO WAS THE ORIGINAL!
And it was so, so damned much better...
Hell, I just watched 'Thunderbirds are Go!' on UK TV, one of the
original Thunderbirds movies, and it fair made the old heart soar...
The Zero-X was one of the greatest designs ever.
"Wulf Corbett" wrote in message
I'm not surprised at that. From what I've seen they've butchered the
original and only taken parts of it. The most glaring piece of stupidity is
changing LP's pink Rolls Royce to a Ford (or possibly something else of
unknown origin), they claim to have been faithful to the original in that it
had to have 6 wheels (4 at the front) and a bubble canopy. They missed the
most important part of the whole concept was that it WAS a Rolls Royce! LP
was English, had a cockney butler and lived in a stately mansion and drove,
that most iconic of British cars, a Rolls Royce. Not just any old Rolls
Royce, hers was pink, something RR would never do but, such was her
influence, she got them to do it. That told you more about the character
than anything else, something which seems to have passed the scrip writers
Add to that Jeff Tracy seems to have got younger by 25 years, as has
everyone else, TB5 now looks like an overgrown MIR, TB2 now has EIGHT pods
(are they kidding or what?), TB4 looks like something they'd explore the
Titanic with and god knows what they've done to Firefly, it looks like it's
made out of Lego bricks. On top of that they now have SILVER uniforms
without IR insignia.
Add to that the script, from what I've heard, is poor and all you've got is
a recipe to annoy generations of TB fans.
Its seems they have NO idea what made the series so appealing to so many
people, all this abomination is is a vehicle for the current trend for using
super duper special effects just for the sake of it. Just as they managed to
butcher one British classic film (The Italian Job, in LA for Gods sake!)
they have now managed to do the same to another British classic, all for the
sake of a buck or two.
Not sure whether this is true, but I was told that Rolls Royce were first
choice to produce the car for the film but they turned it down because it
would be too costly to build. As a result the contract was handed over to
I was at the cinema a few weeks ago and saw the trailor for what looks like
another Hollywood travesty.
From the trailor it seemed to the usual over dose of hollywood glamour, plus
the increasingly common casting :- the good guys (the English) appear to
have American accents, whilst the bad guys (the Romans) appear to have
English accents !!!
"Nigel Heather" wrote in message
Saw a doc on the making of this travesty two nights ago, they built the car
themselves, and its pretty functional, certainly driveable. I just can't
believe they couldn't grasp WHY it was a RR originally, no wonder Gerry
Anderson hated it. Lady P was as English as they get, why would they think
she'd drive a pink Ford???
It's just such a shame, they had the chance to pay homage to genuine classic
and they didn't even bother to find out what made the series what it was. I
think JF thought he was still on the bloody Enterprise!
We used to but Comcrap decided we didn't need it anymore. They left the
channel open for two years then stuck C-span2 in there. There went my
Westerns Wednesday along with lunch with Hoppy.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
In article , "Steve H"
Actually, from what I read Rolls Royce were originally contacted to make a
new car for the movie but decided not to take up the offer. Ford were
approached and jumped at the chance. It reminds me of what happened with
"The Italian Job" (the one and only original) where BMC were approached to
supply Minis for the film and said no - the film crew eneded up having to
go out and buy them instead. Ironically, the remake seemed to be driven
(sic) by BMW as nothing more than an advert for their enormous hatch-back.
I think the explanation is that this is a kind of "prequel" to the
I think the IR insignia are on the uniforms, albeit very small.
You missed the most awful thing. Brains has a son! Yes, Brains has a son!
The daft thing is that I've read various qoutes about how this movie was
going to "appeal to a whole new generation of Thunderbirds fans" missing
the point completely than when the BBC bought the rights to repeat the old
Thunderbirds shows (and subsequent Gerry Anderson classics) in 1991, they
went down a storm with a whole new generation and became the biggest toy
line in years - the original series was actually bigger than it had ever
been! So the notion that creaky old Thunderbirds needing updating for
modern audiences is a bit of a misnomer as the original series still
worked its magic decades after its original airing.
I think the biggest criticisms of the film I've read (and I'm hoping to
see it this week) is that it lacks what made Thunderbirds so popular - ie
things getting blown up. That's a bit like making a Godzilla movie where
they forget to inlude Godzilla. Oh wait, Hollywood did that as well...
You forgot "Get Carter". What has Michael Caine done to have two of his
classic films butchered in such a way? The remake of "The Italian Job"
made no sense at all, other than to promote the new BMW hatchback. "The
Italian Job" (original) was the quintessentially British film that had red
white and blue running through its veins from Michael Caine and Noel
Coward to the clasic Mini Coopers.
Oddly though, "Thunderbirds" is actually a British film!
"Jonathan M" wrote in message
I guess that's what happens when you sell out to the Germans.
Can't blame Ford for that.
That is true, they were very short sighted, and not for the first time. When
they were shooting the original "Saint" series they were approached to
supply an E Type for our hero, they declined but Volvo jumped at the chance
(I guess product placement hadn't been invented then) and they sold bucket
loads of cars. When it came time to shoot the sequel (The New Saint?, Return
Of The Saint?) Jaguar fell over themselves to supply the XJS that was used,
too little too late. With the Italian Job Fiat offered to supply
supercharged Fiat 500's FOC but the producers decided against that and
bought the Mini's instead, just as well as it wouldn't have been the same
with the Fiat's!
That's all it was, nothing more than a 90 min advert. Ironically, my son
loves the original, watches it regularly, we bought him the DVD of the
remake and he's seen it once, hasn't touched it since.
I read that too, it, of course, begs the question, why?
You're kidding yes???? Now I've heard it all........
Spot on, they could have updated it and still stayed faithful to the
original, the original worked after all!
Exactly, what works for The Italian Job is the "them Vs us" mentality,
summed up perfectly when the old chap is putting the devices around Turin to
screw up the computers, he asks for directions and can't understand a word
being said, walks away muttering "bloody foreigners"...
Well, shot at Pinewood at least, but with Hollywood money and a Hollywood
director etc etc.......
Anderson had nothing to do with this mess.
It looks to be a updated version of Spy kids.
I'll probably wait till it comes out in DVD
to rent. At least the SFX looks good, but it's
not going to save the sucky acting and storyline.
Get the NEW issue of TV ZONE (I got mine
at Barnes & Nobles) because it's a Gerry
Anderson Special with tons of good stuff
BTW, Anderson is redoing Capt Scarlet and
it's gonna be in CGI. From the assorted
test shots and story-boards, it looks great.
And what they are saying, they have not,
and will not use any of the stories from the
first series. All the stories are gonna be
Don't forget to get the NEW Thunderbird
box set at Best Buy. It has the 2 Thunderbird
movies of "Thunderbirds Are Go" and
"Thunderbird 6" They had em on sale
last week for $17.99.