You do realize the Western hostages Reagan was aiming to free were in fact freed as a result, right?
That's called results - especially if you were one of the hostages
WmB
You do realize the Western hostages Reagan was aiming to free were in fact freed as a result, right?
That's called results - especially if you were one of the hostages
WmB
on 11/19/2007 1:06 AM Pat Flannery said the following:
Yeah, but where is the carrier USS Jimmy Carter, a Navy Vet? You'll note that the Iranians took the hostages after John Wayne died. They weren't worried about Carter. :-)
Well, I kinda hate to break this to you, but:
And Marion Morrison once almost shot a P-40 down, pilgrim, so what's your point? I'm not going to get angry at you. I'm not going to get angry at you. The hell I'm not...
Pat
Pat
He knew that the fanatics would be nothing but trouble; too bad he was such a crook himself. He imbezzled millions from his own people, for all the good it did him.
Think about who ~drives~ those cabs....
8-P
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What was the result after that Islamic scum murdered over 250 Marines in Beruit? He cut and ran and the NeoCons ~still~ beatified him. The last great president this country has seen was Roosevelt! Theodore Roosevelt!
I was on a hilltop in Turkey, on an army post, in the movie theater, watching a Miss Marple mystery - "Murder at the Gallop." It was already evening (don't recall the exact time) there.
The movie went off the screen, the lights came up, and a disembodied voice came over the p.a. indicating that Kennedy had been shot.
I went immediately to the chapel on post, because I felt that this was just the beginning of the "stuff" hitting the fan. Shortly therafter, I went down to the operations building and was able to spirit away a copy of the AP, Reuters, and UPI teletype feeds for the entire night - from a half-hour before the story broke to four hours after the announcement of his death. I still have them in storage.
I hadn't thought of that little problem. :-) There's a standard Israeli joke that goes: "Moses wanders around in the desert for forty years and manages to settle in the one place in the Mideast that doesn't have oil."
Pat
That guy was one of the most extraordinary leaders any country ever had. I never agreed with his setting the U.S. on the road to world empire, but I can't help but love the guy. Occasionally, you get exactly the right person in exactly the right place at exactly the right time. That was Teddy Roosevelt. In biologist Stephen Jay Gould's book "Bully for Brontosaurus" there's a story about him called "Red Wings In The Sunset". In 1911 Teddy wrote a article to rebut Abbot H. Thayer's theory that all animal coloration is some form of camouflage; including the concept that peacock's tails let them hide among flowers, and flamingos are pink so that alligators can't see them silhouetted against the sunset. He was getting ready to get back into politics again, but wasn't going to let such compete balderdash go by without tearing the theory a whole new a-hole and so whipped up a little _100 page_ scientific paper to show it was wrong. Just like everyone else who studies him, Gould was awestruck by this singular individual, and said for that article alone, he deserves to be up there on Mt. Rushmore. :-)
Pat
I always got a kick out of the fact that his kids had a pet badger, a creature not noted for a friendly temperament. I assume the creature took one look at Teddy and realized if it injured one of the kids Teddy would probably literally bite its head off. Back when Dubya first got into office, his supporters claimed he was going to be the new Theodore Roosevelt. Stop laughing, I'm serious, they actually said that. :-) He has as much in common with Teddy Roosevelt as a sparrow has in common with a eagle. Although the Iraq debacle has a lot in common with the invasion of the Philippines, that he decided to do as Assistant Secretary of the Navy one night when the Secretary of the Navy was out of the office. At first it looks great...the evil Spaniards have been driven out, and the people are free...to become a new addition to the nascent American Empire, which they don't like, so the trouble begins:
I often think that he'd eat the current administration just because of their incompetence. I don't think he'd be happy with the lax attitude to the environment they've shown.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
...and suddenly I'm seeing Maureen O'Hara running down the street in a state of 'deshabile'. Mmmmmmmm.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
No doubt. Their credibility is well below Joe Isuzu's.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
The point remains regarding Reagan's deal to free the hostages. In point blank terms - it worked.
And it only called for the sacrifice of one Marine lt colonel, a Navy Admiral, a cute secretary and an office shredder.
Any day now Jimmy Carter should announce he's brokered a deal with the North Koreans to suspend their nuke program - oh wait - BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WmB
on 11/20/2007 3:10 PM WmB said the following:
Ah, Fawn Hall. What a beauty. I'd like to see a pic of her now.
"Art Murray" wrote in news:fPt%i.541$ snipped-for-privacy@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
I lived in Norhtern Virginia at the time. Was laying in bed trying to get up for work. Heard about the first plnne crash, all I could think of was the B-
25 that hit the Empire State Building years ago. "Nasty bit of bad luck" was going through my mind.And then they said another had crashed and I sat bolt upright. After the Pentagon crash they sent us home as we were located near the National Reconasiance Office and the owner was concerned they might be a target.
All I remember of Kennedy was being annoyed that my cartoons were being interuppted and I couldn't grasp why.
I heard about the shuttle in an elevator at a medical building, it must have just happened while I was in an exam. 2 docs were talking about "how it had to happen eventually". Got in the car, turned on the radio and ...
Frank
" WmB" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:
I can't watch the Flight 93 movie, the good theatrical one that came out, nor any of the History channel recreations. I think about being in the plane or having a loved one on board...
I lnow just how you feel.
Frank
They never were able to figure out where airliner # 4 was targeted for; either the White House or Capitol Building; If it had hit the Capitol Building, the results might have been unexpected. That big dome is made out of 8,909,200 pounds of cast and wrought iron. The plane may have splattered on it like a bug running into a windshield.
Pat
I was four, but do remember watching it realtime and the coverage afterward with my grandfather...that, and seeing Oswald's shooting as well.
It would have rung like a bell - the world's largest Liberty Bell! They would have heard the chime in Meccah!
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