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Part template / Mate problem SW 2004

Step 1. Starting new part from a template made of one rectangle extruded with midplane. Step 2. Select a face, sketch a rectangle, extrude cut halfway through the solid. Step 3. CTRL-Q Next thing that happens is: "Error, could not find face or plane......." If i make a forced rebuild before step 2, it works as it should with no errors. Some assemblys i make with part made from these templates in it suddenly breaks otherwise satisfied mates, and it is often mates that are face to face coincident, and i have to replace these mates.

(SW2004 SP0 (CD))

Tried on these computers with same result:

Athlon 1900+ Win 200 pro SP4

1 gig ram Gloria II

Athlon 2200+ Win 200 pro SP4

1 gig ram Nvidia Geforce 5200

Also same problem on:

Dell Inspiron 8100 Pentium 1000

384 megs ram Geforce 2go XP Pro SP1

Anybody else seen this?

/ Mattias

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Mattias Magnusson
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Don't see it here. Are you using the default 2004 part template or one from an older version?

Dave H

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Dave H

Yes, made the part template from scratch (2004). My VAR can´t reproduce this either, im am going nuts over this....

/Mattias

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Mattias Magnusson

I have been having problems kind of the same. Mates breaking all over the place. Everything is fine and then I make a simple change to a part and all the mates related to it break apart.

At first I thought it might be my hot keys I have for mating not being compatible in 2004, then I thought it might be all the imported parts I was working with. I ruled them things out. I did just start using a start part block from a template as you are. I'll try not using that and see what happens.

I've had about 3 assy's go bad on me. Never seen anything like this before. The mates are breaking faster than I can fix them.

Jay

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Jay

Yes, you are on the same track as me on this bug, i made macros instead of using ready-made rectangles and they seem more stable in the assembly.

/ Mattias

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Mattias Magnusson

Update...., there is now an SPR issued on this problem because finally our VAR could verify this error. So, the advice is: Don´t use templates with solids in them (for now), create the geometry after the template is inserted.

/ Mattias

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Mattias Magnusson

Good job Mattias and thanks for posting! You saved me much time. I was thinking it was something I was doing because nobody else seemed to be having this kind of problem.

Jay

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Jay

Jay,

I have no idea what is happening to you, but would like you to know that I just finished a 15,000+ part assembly with zero mate problems.

I know that I had a could of mates which would give me problems. They were items that used point to point mates. When I enlarged the system (design table change) the points would lose their mates. I added a sketch that to the part which included a line and before the point to point mate inserted a line to point coincident. This seemed to allow the points to find each other.

Other than that all mates remained stable.

Tom

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Tom Chasteen

Tom,

I have done a number of projects in 2004 with no problems. In the last 6 years of using SW, I've never experienced serious matting issues. This is most definitely a bug. I do believe it's related to the use of start parts, which I just started using with 2004 in some new assy's.

I have also seen all the sketch dims go dangling with a simple change to a parts size. It's like the part doesn't recognize or looses track of it's surfaces.

Jay

plane......."

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Jay

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