SheetFormats and Blocks - SW2007

G'day G'day,
Hmm i've discovered something that seems not work as expected so i thought i'd put a msg out and see if its just me thats balsed up or not doing something correctly.
In SW2007 SP0 i've tried to update/create some sheetformats for use in new Drawing templates and tried to make use of blocks within said sheetformats (and there for templates). Basically to make use of being able to link them to a file and update easily if need-be (or so the thinking goes). But for some reason when i save as sheetformat and then try to use that saved sheet format; it just doesnt seem to save the blocks to sheetfomat! ARGH! Even though the preview shows them being there if you go to reload sheetformat in an existing drawing. Am i missing something here? I must be missing somethign because i thought this would be a normal method of using blocks so would think it'd work.
Cheers All! -DWH
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Dear Hoffy
Check for one thing.
Open that template or sheet format whatever u have and check by right clicking any where in the sheet area. I mean just check if you have by mistake saved the sheet format while u were in editing mode.
Regards
Deepak
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Deepak,
Thanks for your response.
Ok i had a bit of a think about what you may be saying. And i gathered you mean to check if i was in the correct mode and had the entities actually in the sheet format. "edit sheet format" or "edit sheet" modes. I checked and also tested both modes. I was in the correct mode to begin with (as thorough before i posted to save embarrassment :P ). Thing is i still get the same problem. No blocks are able to be saved in the sheet format. :( Has anyone else got any experience in this field and can verify this or prove I'm doing something wrong and it is possible?
Another thing... is it possible to locate a block's insertion point at a certain co-ordinate? (i.e. like you can the end points of a line, you can change to 0,0 or whatever. but i cant seem to see a rollout for that in the FMDT). It would make it so much easier for me to position some things accurately and easily (without having to use a modify tool. But if that's all i can use then a quick explanation on how would be nice).
Regards, -DWH
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deep ak
no ive tried this before two ways are you trying to have a block with various parameters in it which are controlled by the model or sheet format to update on insert if so this doesnt work opr at least not for me
alternately are you trying to update a block definition globally ie you alter it in one definition and it updates the block definition in all the drawings that use it this is sketchy sometimes it works but sometimes completely screws the block size scale and position
im thinking somewhere it stores this block info in the drawing and calls it from there
ive had cases where i have deleted the block from the drawing and tried to replace with a different updated definition only for it to replace with the original block
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mikemcd wrote:

We've done the exact same thing using blocks. The only thing different is after placing the blocks while editing the sheet format we exploded the blocks.
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Yes, it seems you simply can not have blocks in sheet formats. This really seems dumb IMO. Totally defeats the purpose of a block i would think. Also as mentioned the linking to file aspect doesnt seem to be all that rigit and also half implemented (suprise suprise, another great feature half baked), buggy, lacking, and not working as it should. *sigh* I expected them to be as controllable as external references are ala AutoCAD (which is how old people?!), but alas, we dont even get that functionality.
So in plain english for the searchers and skimmers after a number of tests to figure out what was possible and what isnt (as of SP0). Blocks don't get saved into sheet formats. They must be exploded fully (both if linked ot a file or not) before the geometry will get saved to a sheet format.
How Gay.
-DWH
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After trying a few things, I see that the difference between SW2006 & SW2007 is that SW2006 will save the block definitions with the sheet format. SW2007 does not save the definition, therefore the block disappears. Even opening a SW2006 sheet format with SW2007, will bring in the block definitions. But then when you save it with 2007, they apparently are stripped out.
I have submitted an Rx file for this.
WT

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SPR 335757
WT
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thanks for that WT
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According to "the list", this issue is fixed with SW2007 SP2.
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