Re: OT: Outlook Express problems...

"Snowy" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@clear.net.nz:

> I know this is off-topic but its starting to annoy me. When I go > 'recieve messages' in OE, it always says that I have 6 messages but I > actually only have 3, or that I have 4 but I only have 2 show up in > the 'inbox'. Is there any way to change this?

Get a real mail client.

Eudora for instance - instant invulnerability against 90+% of all email borne viruses ....

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=>I know this is off-topic but its starting to annoy me. When I go 'recieve =>messages' in OE, it always says that I have 6 messages but I actually only =>have 3, or that I have 4 but I only have 2 show up in the 'inbox'. Is there =>any way to change this?

Something is filtering out the excess messages. You may have set a filter, or your ISP is doing it for you. If the latter, then they are cutting out the spam.

However, as JB/NL says, get a replacement. OE is by no means the best available mail program. Remember, you paid nothing for it - and that's a pretty good measure of its value.... :-)

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Wolf Kirchmeir

I'm sure that somewhere in the MS pricing you did indeed pay for the POS.

Having said that, quite often spammers will retro-date their spam and they end up high in your list of messages. Maybe they don't know how to change the date......;0)

Ian

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Ian G. Mathers

Have you got some people/subjects filtered/killfiled???

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Steve Hoskins

Yeah, and it cost $40 while Outlook Express is free. Some of us aren't independently wealthy and have budgets to live.

RLM

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RLM

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OE is free?

Mine came packaged with Windoze, which definitely wasn't free.

-- Cheers Roger T.

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Roger T.

Not to mention virus writers always target Mickeysoft software.

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JCunington

Netscape Navigator is free and it has a news reader. You could also buy an older version of Eudora 2nd-hand. They're out there. Somewhere. I just picked up WordPerfect 8 Suite for $30 at the used bookstore. Beats the $85 they want for MS Word.

Jay CNS&M Wireheads of the world, unite!

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JCunington

Like Ebola or AIDS or SARS is free - but you pay, big time.

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E Litella

"> > > I know this is off-topic but its starting to annoy me. When I go "> > > 'recieve messages' in OE, it always says that I have 6 messages but I "> > > actually only have 3, or that I have 4 but I only have 2 show up in "> > > the 'inbox'. Is there any way to change this? "> >

"> > Get a real mail client. "> >

"> > Eudora for instance - instant invulnerability against 90+% of all email "> > borne viruses .... "> "> Yeah, and it cost $40 while Outlook Express is free. Some of us aren't "> independently wealthy and have budgets to live.

I believe EudoraLite is available as a free download. Mozilla (a free download) also includes an EMail client.

"> "> RLM "> "> ">

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Robert Heller

Install Free Agent...yup...it's free.

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TCol

I agree with you totally! I've used Eudora for 10 years now, and never regretted a second of it...especially after hearing how much trouble people have with Outlook Express.

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Slingblade

For the average person the "Lite" version of Eudora will do most anything you'd ever want to do. If not, put up with a little advertising in the "Sponsored" mode...if it still bothers you, then is it so difficult to save up a few dollars to register the software, or is everyone out there always looking for a FREE RIDE?

It's funny how people will spend 2000.00 to upgrade their computer to the fastest possible processor, the most amount of RAM, the biggest hard drive, the fanciest sound/video cards and all the other bells and whistles, but when it comes to software, they want it all to be GIVEN to them.

Now, mind you, I think the majority of software in this country (and others) is way overpriced. 100.00+ for a software application is insane, but 30 or 40 bucks isn't so bad, especially for something you will probably use just about every single day of your life...or atleast just about every time you use your computer.

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Slingblade

As someone else mentioned Netscape has a Mail client, and there's also Pegasus Mail, and if you do a search, I'm sure there are dozens of other mail clients that will work better than OE as well.

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Slingblade

I'm still using Eudora Pro 4.0 I bought 5 years ago, and the last version of Gravity as a newsreader. I may take a look at Opera and/or Mozilla one of these days, but the old stuff still works, and a damn sight better and much less clumsy than OE.

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E Litella

And you obviously never heard of Eudora Sponsored Mode. It's basically free, though you get small 1.5"x1.5" ads from various sponsors in the lower left corner of your screen. I've used it for over two years now, and those little ads don't bother me one bit.

BTW, Outlook Express is NOT free. You definitely paid for it in the price of your computer and Microsoft Windows....

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Steve Hoskins

JB, I have thought about changing to Eudora. Can you explain in more detail how it offers instant invulnerability against most e-mail borne viruses? Lynn

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Lynn Caron
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"Lynn Caron" wrote in news:tPD0b.227253$ snipped-for-privacy@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:

Most virii are written to exploit Outlook Express' many vulnerabilities; the fact it renders HTML mail as a web page (with all due consequences), the fact MS software typically has hundreds of security holes that require plugging _now_ .. Eudora renders mail as text, which it was designed to be; does not automatically open every attachment to a mail, but saves it to a directory of your choice, and generally doesn't do anything with your mail exzcept store it and open it wen you want it.

Outlook uses MS ActiveX for just about everything - by all accounts, a buggy system open to wide exploitation. Eudora doesn't.

Eudora also has a mail filter option which can be effectively used to direct the most common spams directly to the trash, thus eliminating them altogether; plus, it has a much better UI. Of course, one thing you do have to do have to do yourself is to NOT open any attachment that looks, feels or even smells suspicious - at least, Eudora won't do it for you... unlike some implemtations of Outlook.

Give it a try. If it doesn't work for you, you can always go back.

I've used Eudora for as far as I can remember (basically, since I took my PC online) and I've _never once_ been infected by a virus or trojan.

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JB/NL

"C> JB, "C> I have thought about changing to Eudora. Can you explain in more detail "C> how it offers instant invulnerability against most e-mail borne viruses? "C> Lynn

By not being OE. The vast majority of e-mail borne viruses specificly target features of OE, since OE has loads of security holes that *seem* to be custom tailored for e-mail borne viruses.

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"C> > > I know this is off-topic but its starting to annoy me. When I go "C> > > 'recieve messages' in OE, it always says that I have 6 messages but "C> I "C> > > actually only have 3, or that I have 4 but I only have 2 show up in "C> > > the 'inbox'. Is there any way to change this? "C> >

"C> > Get a real mail client. "C> >

"C> > Eudora for instance - instant invulnerability against 90+% of all "C> email "C> > borne viruses .... "C> >

"C> > -- "C> > Jeroen "JN-Scale" Braamhaar "C> > There's no N Scale like Japanese N Scale! "C> > Layout:

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Robert Heller

"Mark Mathu" wrote in news:3_J0b.963$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:

Gladly, never!

The mere fact M$ turns on such a buggy protocol (as well as automatically launching attachments and other (l)user-friendly features) as default was enoug reason for me to abandon Microsoft Outhouse Express.

Eudora is, as far as I'm concerned, the way to fly.

There are other mail clients, like Pegasus Mail and any number of web browsers that have devolved to sort of process mail as a side feature, but I find that a dedicated client for the most important things (mail, news and web) works best.

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JB/NL

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