Re: When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!! ----- 0MCX2ECzHk

I can. I'm still running my homebuilt Epox dual mobo with two

700MHz P3 processors and all SCSI drives.

Of course, I could have afforded 7 or 8 machines for the price of 4 Macs . . .

Yes, I can see how buying, setting up and configuring 8 machines would be better than doing it with 4...????

No more nonsensical than the Mac bashing that started this subthread. If the more egregious members of the Wintel crowd want to dish it out - fine. They can learn how to take it as well.

I don't know what the situation is in the US, but here in Australia the de-facto standard platform in the print industry is the Mac, so that's what I go with.

I know plenty of people running ancient 486's ... ok, only as their firewall/router. I have 1 powered up and 3 powered down ... only need 1 router.

Appearance wise they are just as ugly as the multi-GHz machines.

Paul

Pro tools is available for windoze too but Macs do a better job with it I agree.

Typical Windoze wanker. You totally missed the fact that I was taking the piss. And top-posted your inane response as well.

Now, children, can't we all get along?

I prefer top posting myself, even if it isn't the usenet standard. I prefer imbedded posting when a specific comment is referenced; I don't like bottom posting at all if the inclusions are over about 30 or so lines. Too much to look past for me.

But I've only been in the business since 1968, and built my first computer in 1961; the the old hands at this may object to my opinions.

in article snipped-for-privacy@optusnet.com.au, Mark Newton at mark snipped-for-privacy@optusnet.com.au wrote on 4/3/04 11:24 AM:

Golly! Thought I was old.

My patience runs out over three lines.

Seriously, Ed, thanks for your contributions. They are a good read for a "young" impatient guy like me. ...Bill

in article snipped-for-privacy@mb-m16.aol.com, Corelane at snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote on 4/3/04 12:15 PM:

Just remember, you are only young once, but you can be immature forever.

I was a freshman in high school at the time.

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That and they keep MAC simple. No right click or left click for them. MAC users only have one button. A friend of mine, a MAC user, said Apple kept it simple becuase jobs got confused between his right and left hand.

There was a thread going around a couple of years ago about MAC being an acronym.

M aybe A C omputer

M indlessly A cquired C omputing

M ore A ccumulated C ash (for Jobs)

M icrosoft's A lternate C omputer (after MS bailed Apple out for the 3rd time)

There were many more, but I forgot them.

MAC users should be grateful to Bill Gates, if he had not come to Apple's rescue those three times, Apple would be history now like Atari and Commodore computers.

Not sure, by the time he called me in, the HD was toast, it would not even spin up.

Ed, how'd you guess that was my motto? LOL!

Try getting the Macs you have to use OS-X. Or buy a new PowerMac or PowerBook using OS-X and try using some of the old stuff you had plugged into your older machines.

They won't work, and for the same reasons that Wintel machines have had to be constantly upgraded. The cycle just takes longer for Macs, because there is only ONE source for the hardware and OS.

Apple only survived because they managed to convince IBM and Motorola that if IBM and Motorola financed the development of the CPU line in the current Macs, that the new boxes produced would be able to run Mac and OS-2 operating systems and that IBM and Motorola would be able to create a line of Mac clones, sell millions on PowerPCs, make billions of $, and destroy the Evil Empire.

Richard

Joe Ellis wrote:

I last used an Apple about 6 years ago at work. Had to fix something on somebody's else's computer. I started it and it started, loaded everything just fine. I clicked on the icon and it said out of memory. Well 30 minutes later it seems you had to set it up for that app. I then decided there is no difference. Oh and they also tried to update to the latest OS and it wasn't taking it.

The point is, it costs half as much, not that I'd spend the same amount - other, better, toys to spend it on.

Amen. I've always thought quoting an entire damn thread history the way so many eejits do is disrespectfully lazy. Just excerpt the particular point you're replying to, if that seems to be needed, and reply. Don't make the poor reader download and _then_ scroll down the same old crap, getting longer and longer as it's repeated all down the thread.

Top quoting is a relic of days of slower processors and less capable newsreader programs. And weak minds stuck in adherence to an outdated standard - geek fundamentalists!!

For the record, I also think Mac's are superior platforms, double so for new computer users. Their only failing is in their acceptance by the general public. And the only reason the public failed to grab hold was the lack of competition (by direct design of Apple) and lack of software programmers willing to write programs for them.

The last Mac I purchased was in 1997 and was the state of the art version (I do not remember which one), I spent about $6300 of my company's money for it. Similar state of the art PC clones went for about $3200. Managers got to pick which one they wanted as it was their budget they were using. But no Mac manager ever allowed their employees the same freedom. Everyone else used PC clones. ...And that is why Mac is on the bottom.

Art

??? That was not a very intelligent statement. From my reading the poster stated that he was able to set up ALL his systems 50%-57% cheaper than you did with your Mac. Why would someone buy 8 computers when all they need is

4? Also what may be a newsflash to some... a PC will last every bit as long as a Mac! And for 90% of the at home, non-business users, Macs are not appropriate. If all you are going to do is trade digital pics of the grandkids, send email, and/or cruise the visible (not audio) Internet, you don't need a Mac and you don't need a Pentium powered machine. No matter what that local computer department salesman told you at the local Mega electronics market.

You do printing, If it's graphics based, I agree, the Mac will be better. The company that is designing my sales brochures uses Macs in their design process.

Art