Last year in March I was in Arkansas City, KS where I saw a shopkeeper using a PC with Windows 3.0 on it. I seriously doubt that anyone on this list can make the same claim on age. Mac or PC.
Actually, my wife (the programmer in the family) noticed it first. Credit where credit is due...
Art
Okay, that I can see. It actually happened to my wife last year on her IBM Stinkpad. She infected my network with a worm. My remedy was to isolate her computer. In her case she had not kept up with the updates (AV and 2000).
You should have killed the power to the PC and installed another OS to recover data if it was that bad. Once the data was recovered, wipe and reinstall the correct way (with all the SPs) There are other less drastic methods as well.
Art
Will, can you say "system dropped." A drive that fails to spin up has had the logic board fried. And since you did not mention BIOS, CPU, or RAM, we can rule out a lightning strike or other voltage spike. Anyway, you can still recover data from the drive. But it is going to cost $500 or so to do it.
One other thought. How clean is your electricity? Do you suffer from sags or brown outs? My mother used to live in Loma Rica, CA (about 1/2 way between Marysville and Grass Valley for you Bay Area folks) and they have persistent periods of both. She fried two HDs inside 15 months. I actually had one analyzed by some friends at Maxtor as verification. Brownouts and voltage sags will destroy drives and leave the rest of the computer running fairly well.
Art
What I want is one of those programs you see in the movies where you type in "FIND SECRET CIA FILES ON XXX" (in a 40 column equivalent font or larger) and it immediately starts spewing out all the deeply protected stuff* in a WordPerfect document (or Lotus spreadsheet) screen format.
No. I enjoy winding up the Windoze wankers.
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The old farts are the ones who established the standard, are they not? And by your own admission, you are an old fart.
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Big deal. It takes Windoze users three buttons to do what Mac users can do with one. I can see how that makes Windoze superior. :-)
Never heard of the first two times, but the supposed last time, when Microsoft bought a whole $12million (with an "M") in NON VOTING stock at a time Apple had over $2billion (with a "B") in cash in the bank? Give me a break. It was part of a deal Apple and Microsoft struck to settle Apple's lawsuit against Microsoft for stealing the code that led to Windows. Plain and simple. BTW, Microsoft got the stock cheap, and when the stock soared a year later made a killing by selling it.
I just LOVE works of fiction.
Apple started on the bottom because the guys who held the purse strings never heard of Apple Computer before, though they DID know who IBM was; IBM made their mainframes, adding machines, and Selectric typewriters.
_That's_ why Apple wasn't able to break into traditional business environments.
I'm still using a 68030 Color Classic (equivalent to a 386) in everyday use, or did you miss that?
Wils>
Me too! I wonder how he'd explain that large chunk of Apple that's owned by the Evil Empire? :)
I was into the big local graphics designer/printer here in town and was talking to him about his computer needs. He said that when they went to computers they used Apple 100%. But everytime they need to replace a machine, they replace it with a PC as they are more economical, just as reliable and the software more readily available for the PC. Also he said if it goes down, I can phone one of 6 local guys, two of which do on-site repair (at least I know I am one of two he calls). He said of the 12 machines in the company, they only have one MAC left and they will "have to keep it as one of our customers still use MAC and give us their artwork on MAC disks"
So, in the real world, Apple is not as good for graphics professionals. Only in Apple's marketing world is it so.
Art, one of my clients is running his 2 engraving machines by using 2 Tandy
1000 machines. I just had to try and find a 5 1/4" disk drive and install it for him. They are still going and still running his machines.
Art, the actual problem was that the drive was a Maxtor 40GB 7200 RPM unit and it was mounted vertically to the front of the case (I don't know why the original technician did that, there were 3 drives bays empty). After the fact, I checked with Maxtor and they said that if at all possible their high speed drives should be installed horizontally, vertical installation cuts the drives live by 75%. I also told the customer about a Toronto company that could save his data or that he could send the drive to Maxtor and they would replace it and recover the data. I checked with Maxtor and the drive was still under warranty.
The client took the machine back to the other service shop, the one where he originally purchased the machine. The ownerthere said the drive only had a 1 year warranty and it was over as the machine was 16 months old. He told the customer that since the drive would not even power up, there was no way to get his data. He sold him a new HD, installed it for free and sent the customer on his way.
I followed up with the client and asked how the data recovery went and he was so mad becuase he could not recover his data (he believed the other shop's story).
I guess the other dealer sent the HD back to Maxtor and made himself a down and dirty profit when it was replaced.
TI laptop running Windows 3.11, upgraded from 3.0 since I needed the networking stuff...
Don't bother to reply via email...I've been JoeJobbed.
No data - new install. The fix was easy, and an SOP was modified...
Jeff Sc. No Plugs, Ga.
Don't bother to reply via email...I've been JoeJobbed.
Actually, Microsoft only made that settlement after the introduction of the "Power" series.
But I guess all those Motorola PCs running the Mac OS that I worked on 5 years ago(and which are now non existant because Apple pulled the plug on Mac Clones) are just figments of your imagination.
C.O.J>
Not exactly mark. In this instance I suppose I shall have to give the Devil his due.
It doesn't require three buttons, but I will admit that I like my three-button rodent. I have the center button programmed to double-click, plus it also doubles as a scroll-wheel. The right button is the standard Windoze right-click which opens the menu window to allow access to the program's properties and several other functions as well. Not required, but very convenient. I can still double-click with the left button if I so desire. My brother is left-handed and has a left-handed rat programmed with the left and right buttons reversed. I also have my mouse set to operate at extremely fast speed. I never have to move my wrist to make the pointer go anywhere on the screen. The last MAC I had was not capable of manipulating the mouse to the extent of my present PC.
Another family member has one of those damned rollerball rats that you don't move. It has three buttons and a billiard-sized ball in the center that you roll around to make the mouse scurry about on the vidscreen. I HATE that thing. Oh, it works just fine but it is a monumental PITA to use.
If you'd use a Mac, you'd know this was wrong. Any Mac in OS X can use a two button mouse (with/without scroll) just like in Windoze.
Most of us prefer NOT to, however. I, OTOH, do use a two button mouse.
Just because he can't get support it's not as good? You can come up with a better excuse than that, I'm sure.
The expense issue doesn't wash, either; Macs last longer in service, and are rarely, if ever, upgraded by their users, which means they the TCO is similar to PCs, which regularly get new motherboards, with new processors, new video cards, etc.
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