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Jack wrote: I have the prototype already. It's a bit big for my trailer :) Here it is:

Video Guy replied: What an enormous headlight! Did it slow the car down much when it was turned on?

--------------------------------------------------- I believe steam locomotives such as this were designed to look like street cars (trolleys) so it wouldn't scare the horses. They were used where train tracks were in the streets leading to warehouses, etc.

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Excellent observation! ...But that's the "A" ABOVE middle "C"..... (only in the interest of accuracy, don't mean to be a "wise guy")

Nice looking beast -- I like the paint scheme. Where is "Castlecliff?". It's small, though - note that the older gentleman has barely room enough to stand upright. You build it at 9" scale, and I'll bet you won't be able to stand upright on it. :-)

Call your scale "J" for Jack. After all, you just invented it.

Auckland, New Zealand. The loco - an ex-New South Wales Government Tramways Baldwin steam tram - is preserved by MOTAT.

They are rather small, but as the saying goes, good things come in small packages. They're quick, quiet and easy to fire. Of the three NSWGT Baldwins that survive in preservation, two are operational. The other is now at the depot museum at Valley Heights, west of Sydney, Australia.

The photo shows 103A when still at Parramatta Park, where it was badly damaged in a 1993 fire that destroyed most of the museum collection.

The steam tram loco in the photo was used originally in Sydney, Australia, to haul passenger trailers, before the tramway (streetcar) system was electrified. The last examples in government service ran at Kogarah until 1937, when they were replaced by trolleybuses! A private line at Parramatta ran them until 1943.

Mark Newton wrote; The steam tram loco in the photo was used originally in Sydney, Australia, to haul passenger trailers, before the tramway (streetcar) system was electrified. The last examples in government service ran at Kogarah until 1937, when they were replaced by trolleybuses! A private line at Parramatta ran them until 1943.

--------------------------------------------------- Thanks for enlightening me, Mark.

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My pleasure, Bill. As you might have guessed, I have a real fondness for these lovely little engines. :-)

Castlecliff is in Wanganui, New Zealand, although Baldwin 100 is now at MOTAT in Auckland. From MOTAT's website: "Brought to Wanganui in 1910 for construction of the Gonville & Castlecliff Tramway Board?s electric tramway extensions of the Wanganui system. Used rarely after 1912, but most famously during a 3-month failure of the Wanganui power supply in 1920 and again during the closing weeks of the system in 1950."

I've now worked out that at three-quarter scale a 5 foot 10 inch person could stand up in the center part with the raised roof. I can lower the floor inside also, without changing the exterior appearance. It's mostly for the use of kids, who are not allowed to play around inside the real thing.

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Fair enough! I wasn't sure whether you were in Enzed or elsewhwere.

Yes, 100s are still oilburners. Never having run a loco with them, I was surprised at how much light they put out. Some of the motorists on the adjacent road got quite a surprise.

I can tell you as a member of STARPS The Baldwin tram engine is close to being the perfect design for a steam tram motor.

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Bruce, I've always thought this was the real reason that steam tram locomotives were built that way. In the UK, the Board of Trade stipulated that tram locos have their wheels and motion competely enclosed, along with other features intended to make them fairly unobtrusive when running in the street. The locos looked typically like these examples:

Note the wonderful combination of beer advertising and a steam loco - obviously the trailer car was intended to cater for temperance campaigners.

The Baldwin locos that ran in Sydney were also surprisingly discrete. The hinged flap over the wheels was lined with felt to absorb the sound of the rods, while both the brake ejector exhaust and the safety valves were very effectively muffled. They could sneak up on people quite easily, and in their day took a heavy toll of careless pedestrians.

Mark, That Rossendale Tram is an interesting looking little loky. Definitely has a distinctive character. It could make an interesting bash for an On30 Porter than took a drop to floor then had a board fall on it. I don't have a single sneaky pedestrian terminating type of locomotive. Every one should have at least one. Thanks for the pictures. Bruce

Often in contemporary reports, the Sydney Baldwin steam motors are quoted as being noisy, which is supposed to be one of the reasons why the system electrified. Probably a newspaper beat-up of the period. Regards, Bill.

The Baldwin steam tram at MOTAT Auckland is very quiet except when it blows off steam. The horses that pull a buggy around over the tram tracks don't seem at all worried by the steam tram.

Definitely a beat-up. The motors are very quiet in operation, even when steaming hard.

Glad you liked them!

How would you know, your not that old. Steam locomotives are noisier than electric trams.

What Mark doesn't say is 103A was butchered by the so called preservation group he was in.. Yes a diesel hidden inside can be quick to start, quiet and easy to fire.

Once again, you're spouting complete and utter bullshit, like the lying wanker that you are.

Care to offer any credible evidence that 103A has been "butchered", or has a "diesel hidden inside"?