Warming dynamo field coils.

While re-wrapping the old cotton coated wires to the field coils on a Delco-Light genny, I remembered reading an article some time ago about "warming up" the field coils by passing a low current through them for a period of time to dry out any damp that may have been absorbed by the coil's cotton wrappings while in storage. As the windings were thoroughly washed with an appropriate cleaning fluid for the job, albeit eight months ago, I think it might be worth giving it a try just to ensure the coil wrappings are dry, and so keeping the risk of tracking minimal.

Trouble is, I can't think where I read the article. Does anyone else remember reading it, and where?

Regards, Dave Carter.

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D.J.Carter
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I too read this but many years ago. The trick is to pass a current latge enough to produce useful heat but at a voltage low enough not to stress the damp insulation. It's a procedure used on electric motors that have been got wet etc. Google drying motors and you get this

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John

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John

Umm....

Do you want it as the manufacturer made it. I guess so..Or do you want it to work reliably...Next post.. :-)

Now, the old stye wire (not cotton) had a sort of shellac coating Which cracks and degrades quickly,. New style has a PU coating which is reluctant to crack and degrades more slowly...

Spect you want it as the manufacture made it, So, you want it dry....I wouldn't pass a current thro it, I'd make sure it was dry in the first case. Yes, It will get wet / damp later, but let's build a platform.

You need cotton coated wire thats dry and wont short. Test it first..

So. Step 1) Dry the wire gently -- unspool, electric oven gas mark

0.5, leave, check regularly make sure hasn't gone crispy. ( half an hour should do it ) - nb. gas ovens produce water so possibly not the best.

Please don't even think about mcrowaving it... :-)

You now have dry wire. Rewind. There used to be a product (Holts Igniotion Sealant?) that cured most ills, consider a light spray of this every turn.

Won't do any harm, might help..

But,

If you want your ccurrent oils dried. Electric oven. Minimal setting. . Day or so.

Problem is that cotton will attract water...

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Derek Lord Of Misrule!

If they've been indoors for 8 months, then they will be as dry as they are going to get.

Tracking is usually only a problem on Magnetos which work at considerably higher voltages.

Your bigger worry is the physical security of the windings etc. I'm thinking about getting some of my old stuff re-dipped (via our friendly transformer maker) so that everything is securely bonded.

We also have air-drying dipping varnish here for the small bits and pieces, you're welcome to a dip if you call round....

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

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Prepair Ltd

It was called "Damp Start" which was a big No No as it didn't dispel water so no use spraying it over wet electrics. It was actually a laquer which may be what you want. It's still available. Google produces a number of suppliers.

John

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John

Thank you, gentlemen.

The main windings were securely wrapped, it was just the supply leads to them that were frayed and req'd re-wrapping. I bought a reel of modern cotton(?) wrapping at an autojumble a while ago with this in mind. After double wrapping and securing with small cable ties, I liberally soaked them, trying to avoid the coils, with black anti-tracking varnish.

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Thanks for the offer of a dip, Peter. I had the armature dipped to prevent any further deterioration to the winding wrappings and to try to increase the insulation reading. I maybe should have had the coils dipped as well.

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Page 6, Para 4.2 of the pdf is pretty much the same as that which I read.

Would the "Safe Insulation Chart" zone lines hold true for a 32v. dynamo?

Regards, Dave.

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D.J.Carter

Dave... I should imagine a meg would more than ample at 36 volts , due to the low voltage the coils would have to be really screewed to brake down I would not bother with current heating just bring them indoors in the airing cuboard for a while. I have just finsished rewinding an old lister dynamo which was a dead short from the comm to the armature it was as if someone had been pouring oil away in there , the field coils where perfect though. I have 5 liters of red antitrack paint if you need any to paint the inside of the frame to give extra protection to the coils.

Regards bob

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Bob

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