Alleghenny

In message , snipped-for-privacy@mwfree.net writes

That's that 2-6-6-6 isn't it? Somebody already does that, IIRC.

I've just bought a Life-Like Proto 2000 USRA 2-8-8-2 with DCC and sound. Cost me only GBP320 plus a share of the postage costs.

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I'm not absolutely sure on this but I don't think this ever actually got released by Rivarossi.

John.

The list I saw said release in Nov this year. The only thing putting me off is the cost as all the other mallets around with dcc and sound are a lot less than =A3415.

Kevin

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Yes, I've had the same list from Hornby but what I meant was that I didn't think that the Alleghenny had previously been released.

John.

Yes, it was released and voted best model in the Us in that year, which I think was 2000 but i am not sure. What I am sure about is that I did own one which I paid about £375 and sold just a few weeks ago for £200 on E-bay. The Riverossi model is superb, the best detailing I have ever seen on a RTR model. I fitted the supplied option traction tyre set of wheels and whit these on it could handle a 50+ boxcar train. Running was as good as anything I have ever seen, the only reason I sold it was the lack of sound which my "A" class loco has, for me sound makes all the difference.

simon

"Piemanlager" wrote

Thanks for that Simon, wasn't completely sure of my facts.

I wish I'd known you were selling one, but I'd only have wanted it without traction tyres. I've asked Hornby whether they are producing with or without traction tyres, but not had an answer.

John.

FWIW, reviews over here said it was pretty good engine. (It was sold here as Rivarossi, distributed by Walthers.)

But the price is too high IMO. 415 GPB works out to about $800-900 US or Canadian. Way out of line. Should be a list price of about $500-600 (with DCC and sound - look at what BLI is able to do at this price point), with a street price of about $300-400.

The Allegheny was/is not as widely popular as the Big Boy and the Challengers, so it didn't do that well. Hornby's pricing won't improve matters. (I suspect they want to continue Rivarossi's relationship w/ Walthers.)

But DCC/S (DCC with sound) is getting to be standard now, and much sooner than I expected. This means that leftover unchipped, silent locos are going to go for very low prices within 12 months or so. There are already signs this is happening - my distributor is trying to unload older Atlas and Athearn locos, for example. Oddly enough, even people who think that DCC sound equipped locos are overkill, and prefer the unchipped silent one, expect to pay clear-out prices for them. It's a fact of life that the cost of DCC/S is dropping very quickly, so that the mfr's cost of maintaining separate product lines will soon be higher than the cost of equipping all product with DCC/S. Some will point to the reatil price of DCC/S units as a refutation. But the reason the consumer prices of such boards is high is that it costs an amazing amount of money to warehouse, advertise, and distribute these items in retail quantities.

In message , John Turner writes

John, Any chance you could post the contents, or at least a summary, of the list? I'm curious to know what else Hornby are planning on releasing.

"Spyke" wrote

No chance, but if you email me off list I'll send you their plans in Excel spreadsheet format.

John.

As you spoof your address John, how can I tell what it is? Ian

In message , John Turner writes

"Ian Birchenough" wrote

Email me off the

John.

well, I for one had never heard of these before so I went-a-hunting and came up with a few on eBay.com

here's what I feel is one most impressive example,

very tough looking thing!

Steve

Kevin

mindesign wrote: >

They are indeed! I've seen the two preserved examples, and in the flesh

-so to speak - they are even more impressive.

be downright bloody scary I reckon!

:)