At last it seems I will be escaping from the US and coming home after a 20
Of course, my layout will only be about two thirds done by this time, and
then I'll have to dismantle it, about the only thing I will miss about
living here is the basements in homes suitable to model rail.
What do you guys in England do for modeling space? I will be looking for
property next month, any suggestions?
after a 20
Hmm, what do/did you model, US railroads or UK railways etc.?
If you are looking for a replacement for a US style basement then I
think you'll need to be looking at one of the following, a double
width garage, a large (traditionally built) house with a large lost
space or a house with a large garden into which you could build a
It's all going to depend on your budget, after seeing the price of
fuel etc. in the UK compared to the USA you just might want to stay
were you are !...
The garage is popular.
I understand the problem. I moved to the US in 1989, to California
where they don't have basements but I had a double garage. 4 years ago
I moved to up-state New York where I have a huge basement, but will be
moving back to California soon.
When I eventually move back to the UK I don't know what I will do.
O-scale takes a lot of space, especially with Gauge O Guild finescale
stock needing 6ft radius curves.
I suspect the solution will be an indoor/outdoor layout. Station, yard
and fiddle yard indoors, loops outdoors.
well the reason I asked in the first place... up in the Fens
(spalding/holbeach way) Properties tend to have long gardens and a lot have
very generous out buildings. One of my mates father, had an outbuilding over
120ft long divided into a retail area, a storage area and a garage... the
storage area was about 40ftX12ft... which I would say is about ideal for a
*really* nice layour whatever gauge you model :o)
problem is the fens are very uninspiring countryside, highly agricultural,
with miserable foggy winters and crap all over the roads from the tractors.
House prices tho are correspondingly - not a rip
If you are lucky enough to be moving to an area north of the Wash to mid
Lancs., or have lots of cash, go for a Georgian/Regency house with the
usual enormous cellars. Bitterly regret having to leave one we had.
What I did was buy a large 12 x 10 ft shed from the local B&Q with the
intention of extending it. Luckily the shed had the manufacturers details on
the delivery note, so I contacted them and was able to purchase additional
add on floor/roof/side panels to make the shed longer. I then fibreglassed
the inside and pannelled the walls, some cheap packs wood flooring, coat of
paint and the electrics made it into a nice room for the future layout.
Trouble is, it has now been commandeered as the games room by the family.
Will I get it back I ask
Do you really really want to live in a part of England that is being rapidly
deserted by those who can afford to leave because they are retired? I would
not contemplate buying any kind of house anywhere in the SE. Overcrowded,
traffic jams, pollution, Ugh! The current thinking amongst the chattering
classes is to sell up and move to a part of the country which has quiet
roads, no pollution, easy access to good shopping and culture. Where is
this? The Scottish Borders. 60 mins from Edinburgh in most cases.
Excellent hospitals, good local shops, and supermarkets if you must shop
like that. No traffic, no parking fees, I could fill a page with reasons to
live here. Even the weather is better here. Oh, and house prices are about
40% of what you will pay in the SE of England. They sell up in Esher for
£1M, move up here, buy a better house for £400K, and live off the profits.
We will soon be outnumbered by the English immigrants, but we are glad to
see them -- they bring their good health and money. And there is plenty
going on in model railways as well with flourishing local clubs and
societies, and everyone knows everyone else.
I had a 30 year sentence spent largely in the London area. I came back here
15 years ago and am still wondering why it took so long for the penny to
Sounds like you either don't know the area that Rob has decided to
move to (Alton Hampshire) or you simply have a grudge against what you
conceive is the case in the South / SE.
The Scottish Borders. 60 mins from Edinburgh in most cases.
How about being snowed in and / or really cold winters, about the only
reason for moving to the area (from the south) is to move up to a
larger property whilst lowering the mortgage or improving the
retirement savings. BTW, with relations still in the Alnwick area I do
have some idea, more than you seem to have of the South / SE (outside
of the M25)....
In message , ":::Jerry::::"
Hmm.. I was born in the SE, and lived in and around the area for fifty
years before moving to NE Scotland nearly three years ago. Will I move
back? Notta chance :-)
Snowed in? Very unlikely. Scots expect, and know how to deal with
snow. Traffic? Not a lot. Model railway exhibitions? Plenty, thanks
- off to Elgin for the day, tomorrow. Supplies of railway items? Not
too many model shops around, but mail order works well. Yes, Royal Mail
does extend this far north, and yes, mail arrives in Aberdeen just as
quickly as it arrives in London.
Compare, snow very rare with snow more common that not......
Depends were you are talking about, how is rush hour Aberdeen or
Edinburgh ? In the area that Rob suggested I doubt that the rush hour
is bad, OK Southampton or Portsmouth can get busy at those times of
Subject: Re: Coming home!!!
Don't waste your breath Graeme. If he wants to be gazumped and driven mad
estate agents in the deep south there is nothing more we can do for him. It
frees up a space here for someone else anyway. At least in Scotland we have
fairer way of dealing with real estate and even the English are beginning to
think they might change! Maybe he likes traffic jams and never knowing how
it is going to take to get anywhere. At least you don't have to pay to use
biggest car park in Europe also known as the M25.
PS It is not generally regarded as polite to begin the statement of a
view with 'bollox'. It isn't good netiquette. I don't think that is the
correct spelling either.