Railway colours

"Paul" wrote

BR blue first appeared with the XP64 set in 1964 but didn't start to be applied generally until 1965.

My first photographs of locos in Dutch livery are c.1991, but some rolling stock received the livery somewhat earlier than that. EWS arrived on the scene with the sale of the trainload companies in 1996. My first photograph of an EWS liveried loco was on 5/8/96.

Sector liveries (such as coal) date from the late 1980s.

John.

For hauled coaching stock & diesel locos, yes. However, the WCML electric locos were blue when built (circa 1960 from memory ?), as were the Glasgow Suburban (Class 303) emu's, built about

Bevan

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:38:41 +0000, Bevan Price wrote

Electric Blue rather than BR Blue though

The 303s actually started with a lined Caledonian Blue - a bit different to the later BR blue.

Jim.

"Greg Procter" wrote

BR blue is generally understood to refer to Rail blue, but there was also

Experiment Express Blue - 1948/49 Electric Blue - 1961 onwards but replaced eventually by Rail Blue - 1964/5 onwards

John.

"John Turner" wrote

Plus of course:-

Nanking Blue (Prototype 'Deltic') Pullman Blue (Blue Pullman DMUs)

and probably others.

John.

Don't forget that English, Welsh & Scottish Railway(s?) was established in February 1996 with their earliest locos lettered 'EW&S', including some ex-BR repaints besides its new, GM-built new 66s.

The ampersand (&) was dropped after a few months.

Regards,

DigitisED (Eddie Bellass)

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As noted in another post, EWS is owned by Canadian National through its acquisition of Wisconsin Central.

"MartinS" wrote

Was - now owned by DB (Deutsche Bundesban).

John.

John Turner said the following on 11/01/2008 08:35:

Blimey - can't these companies stay stable for more than 5 minutes?

Deutsche Bahn AG to be pedantic.

Probably more to do with not making a profit for more than 5 minutes ;-)

Cheers Richard

"Paul Boyd" wrote

The Canadians have wanted out for a long while - ever since they bought Wisconsin Central (which previously owned EWS).

John.

Wikipedia is out of date, then.

When the erstwhile Wisconsin Central took charge of EWS (EW&S) its then boss was Ed Burkhardt, a career railwayman who had started on the New York Central as a teenage track worker.

He learned to fire & drive steam locomotives as well as diesels and I first met him at Bury, Lancs, in the cab of the East Lancs Railway's ex-LMS 'Crab' 2-6-0 42765. I think he was a little disturbed by the state of the ex-BR diesel locos then forming the core of his motive power fleet, hence the decision to order the Class 66s in bulk from EMD in Canada. (No patriotic protests here, please! I worked in (but not for) Vulcan Foundry/English Electric from the final years of steam production to the very last diesel and electric locos and championed them all myself.)

Burkhardt was later deposed in a WC boardroom coup and his successors sold WC to Canadian National, who have been trying to get rid of EWS ever since.

Regards,

DigitisED (Eddie Bellass)

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"MartinS" wrote

Certainly if they are claiming that CN still own EWS. The change of ownership took place in the second half of 2007.

John.

Or Deutsche Bann as they prefer to call themselves these days. According to EWS press release, watchout for the line rap of the URL

Oh dear, you've just been examples 10,513 and 10,514 of my collection illustrating the generality that Brits can't write two words of German without making at least one mistake.

It's Bahn, not Ban, and not Bann.

Just to help you out, eh? ;-)