Petter Panitin Chart

Martyn

I would suggest that as you want to put the engine back to it's formal state that you try to find a patch of original (if any is left on the engine) paintwork and match to that. There are a few Petter men on the NG who can tell you the exact shade of green that Petters would have sent the engines out in, but that may have been changed to match the (company) colour of the equipment the engine powered. There is at least one Lister D around that was used on fire fighting equipment and is painted red. The cowling on our Douglas which came off an Opperman Moto-cart was repainted Howard rotavator orange as that was the closest match we could get to the original colour.

Regards

JohnR

I've got a Petter A which is all red, beleived to come from a fire pump, so they're not all green. But I'd doubt if any origianlly had a mix of colours as you describe, but I could be worng and have been several times!

Martyn,

like many others before you, you may be surprised to find that these engines are found in all sorts of colours.

In general, if Petter sold them direct to an end-user, they will be a shade of green which is well matched by mid-brunswick green. During WWII, as all available resources were being poured into the war effort, they were painted in whatever was available. I've got a 1943 Petter A which is painted a blue which is very similar to that on my Landrover.

If the engine was supplied to an equipment manufacturer (for example, a cement mixer maker or a pump producer) then the engine would have often been painted by the manufacturer in their own colours. I'm sure you've seen plenty of orange cement mixers, for instance. I bet if you look at the engines, they're orange as well.

The Petter A series were a lightweight workaday power unit, regarded at the time with the same reverence we would give to an electric motor, so I would be surprised if any complex colour schemes such as you describe were used.

I personally detest the green engine with red bits colour scheme, it seems vile and garish to me, and is rarely original. That's not to say you shouldn't paint your stuff that way if that's what you favour personally. Like you, I feel happier if the colour scheme is what would have been originally provided by the maker.

Regards, Arthur G

BTW, Martyn, what is the steel grade is the University using for your valves?

are found in all sorts of colours.

green which is well matched by

poured into the war effort, they were painted

which is very similar to that on my

cement mixer maker or a pump producer) then the

I'm sure you've seen plenty of orange

time with the same reverence we would give

such as you describe were used.

vile and garish to me, and is rarely

what you favour personally. Like you, I

by the maker.

hiya, yea , they've given me, EN 26

looked it up and looked at the carbon content and materials specialist guy said it wud b well enough, any other suggestion or do u agree its fine to use that?

thanks, Martyn

PS what happened to all PETTER A type serial Numbers,

i want them, i wanna make a database and try and find the earlist

i know im sad but its what i do.

heres a link of a photo ive seen, ill try to get the other photos off my phone on further investigation the old PETTEr logo is used instead of the diamond,

maybe i am wrong, even so why is it so common?

thanks, Martyn

hiya, like mentioned earlier guys

thats a link to a photo i have of one, i know and respect it uses the wrong PETTEr logo as it uses the earlier gold style inside of the diamond although i have seen others i am now currentky trying to get the photos on my computer problem is u can never rely on a scanner when u need it,

thanks, Martyn

Martyn,

I'm no materials expert and was merely interested to see what steel they would use.

I looked up my Petter A 1.5hp 750rpm Serial 332727. It was supplied to E Thomas and Co, Oswestry, 14-3-1944, (not 1943 as my addled brain had recalled it).

Keith Ott (listed under helpline in SEM) has the dating information for Petter A engines.

Regards, Arthur G

Go look here Arthur looks alright to me.

Martin P

Just to add to the confusion, my Petter A1 is grey all over, obviously been like it from new and - for what it's worth - I too think that a single colour looks better on an engine of this size than a two-colour repaint. Red bits put me in mind of a maiden aunt with overdone makeup.

But it's your engine, Martyn, you must do as your spirit moves you!

Regards,

J. Kim Siddorn,

Did you manage to obtain any photos, shame if not, but if you have some i would love to hear from you,

thanks, nice to know im not going crazy and me seeing petters with red fly wheels do acturally exist and its just not some legend got carried into practice, thanks again, Martyn

i have posted the link somewhere on here if you fancy a look at the one i managed to photograph theres more on the way when i sort out this friggin scanner.

best wishes, Martyn