ROD wagons.

Oct 16, 2007 9 Replies

Hi all, where would I find information/drawings on WWI ROD wagons? (I've tried Google with no luck)



Greg.P.


The South Devon Railway has

Ex ROD Tender converted to sludge tank ADW91

in their stock list

this link in Google

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The only ROD-specific wagons I can think of were a batch of GWR 'Toad' brakevans which ended their days with the 'Chemin de Fer d'Etat' or possibly the CF d'Ouest. If you broaden your search a little, you could try 'wagons marchandise TP', which were the wagons supplied by the Americans to the Allies. These were mounted on diamond-framed bogies, and included tank wagons, flats, low and high-sided opens and, I think, vans. They were remarkably long-lived, lasting in revenue-earning service into the 1970s, whilst examples of both flats and tanks still exist as internal users at various locations. They were passed on to the various French railways at the end of hostilities, then passing to SNCF. 'TP' stands for 'Travaux Publiques' or 'Public Works', the wagons having been administered by the French equivalent of the British Ministry of Supply. Curiously, when the Americans again supplied wagons post-1944, they supplied

4-wheel ones rather than bogie ones. Brian

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I was googling Department rather than Division - Duhh!

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The LNER took over some ex ROD high side opens (and vans) along with three rail ferries for their Halifax - Zebrugge ferry service in 1924.

I'm aware of the TP wagons, I rebuilt some Jouef TPs into passable models just before Fleischmann brought out their beautiful models of the same. I still don't know how they should be marked/lettered for pre-SNCF era.

Greg.P.

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Always pays to experiment to broaden the search

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I've remembered another type that was sent to France- GWR 'Provender' wagons. These were high sided opens with full-depth, side hinged, doors, intended to carry provender (hay/other food for horses). In WD use, they were used to carry the horses themselves. Coopercraft make a model of this type:-

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On a related note, one reason for the much larger loading gauge on the various German railways, even in relation to other European networks, was that the military (who were very involved in planning the lines) worked on the assumption that they would need to carry a lot of hay on their wagons in the event of war. They obviously had learnt lessons from Napoleon's overstretched supply lines in the early part of the century. Brian

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The GCR built some of their long-bodied steel framed six plankers for the WD (been diging though my notes re the ex WD ferry stock). Illustrated in Mr Tatlow's book on LNER wagons

The GWR built some of their 5 plank opens but fitted with a pitched roof with (IIRC) four doors per side. Not sure but I seem to remember the pics were in Great Western Way

Mike

"Mike Smith" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@brightview.co.uk:

I have pics of those in Russel's Book one of his "Illustrated" series. I was only looking at it the other night. According to him IIRC the GWR supplied their bog standard 5 plankers, without the patent sheet support etc and it was the WD who put the pitched roofs on them. The book's in the garage otherwise I'd check now. They looked like 2/3rds hight Salt Wagons although the door arangement was different and again IIRC part of the roof was hinged.

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