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There was the advantage of greatly reduced rocking couples with inside cylinders as compared to equivalent outside cylinders.

"...spoiling the outline"??? I bet you're one of those philistines who thinks locomotives should be rectangular boxes filled with nasty Dieasal stuff and distinguished only by hastly repainted numbers with a computer check code appended(?)

Well, they were (generally) cylindrical in shape and often about the right size for their intended tasks. Of course, a _proper_ steam loco should have full valve gear with lots of extra rods and levers that only the designer understood while he was drawing them on his plan.

Regards, Greg.P.

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Greg Procter
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Whos feeling a bit snappy this morning then. there were very few of that type of box on the midland, LNWR or LMS as far as I know. Its the graceful curves of which I am a fan.

Rumbled ?

Cheers, Simon

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simon

Me "snappy"??? Most of my railway stuff has been in storage since November 2006 and the new house was to be finished in July 2007 ... before Christmas 2007 ... March, 15th April ... 17th June ... now the 36th June. Sigh!!!

I've built about 20x 1:24th scale coaches and wagons for the garden railway meanwhile, but I don't dare lay any outdoor track as it will probably be in the way of a bulldozer. I can't get stuck into a loco because my workshop is the room occupied by all the cartons ... I can't get on with my L&YR Highflyer nor my KWStsE Klose 0-10-0. If I get one more delay I'm gonna bite the leg off the next tradesman!!! "Snappy", well, perhaps just a little.

Greg.P.

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Greg Procter

To be fair the LMS had lots of Diesels pre- WWII . They were mostly Ruston powered shunters which became the 08's eventually and didn't

10000 & 10001 carry the LMS insignia? Not to mention all those Watford trains which started out as LTR and somehow changed ownership out in Bucks?

Ha!

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Sailor

Indeed, the LMS were arguably the first to see the light and look for non-electric alternatives to those dirty, inefficient, kettles ;-)

Cheers Richard (Tin hat donned...)

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beamendsltd

Might manage some sympathy if there was ever a chance of getting a workshop - some of us make do with a desk ! Garden railway as well.... No chance then. Cheers, Simon

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simon

LMS 10000 was finished with 3 weeks to spare. But even when the outside livery was changed presume there was still letters lms cast in aluminium floorplates of engineroom compartment. Very nice in black but still a diesel.

Cheers, Simon

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simon

Well yes but that doesnt mean they liked them and the real world is rarely wellcome in my modelling thank you. Finally were they dirty for most of the time that steam was prevalent, were diesels ever cleaner during their time ? Cheers, Simon

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simon

Hey, I'm so old I've _earned_ a workshop! There were several decades when I didn't even have a desk. It's only a little garden (90 x 129) and I have to put up with a 30m commute to be able to have that.

You're a tough audience - should I make it a musical and sing the tragic bits?

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Greg Procter

Not on the outside ;-) But to work with..... I never worked with a driver who would swap a steam for diesel - even for a brief nostalgia trip in many cases........

Cheers Richard

P.S. I'm not anti steam, but the "romance of steam" was an expression not understood by the drivers I worked with - usually attracting comments like "try running tender first from Savernake in the middle of winter" etc.

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beamendsltd

It often amazes me when I realise the amount of work done to move a steam train, especially the fireman.

P.

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Paul Matthews

erm, well you want sympathy from someone who had several decades not in the hobby. Then call that a commute - if its 30 miles or 30minutes its about a com. Had 10 years of a 18mile drive, 100 miles on train then 10 minutes underground - thats a commute.

This small garden dare you say what the dimensions are ?

Cheers, Simon

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simon

Have thought long and hard on how to answer* this from 'dont have steam, theyre electric models' which is relevant to the points I was making. But to answer the different topic that youre having a go with ....

Would agree theres no romance as far as being a driver is concerned, but that doesnt mean theres no romance in the vision of a steam engine - either stationary or in full flight. The romance comes from the emotion of the viewer not the situation of all those involved in creating the image or situation. Just consider that some of the worlds greatest monuments were built by slave labour, and I doubt if its ever been a picnic in the average gold mine.

Cheers, Simon

OK only a couple of minutes.

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simon

30 minutes is a _long_ commute! (here)

Like I said; 90m x 129m I do have to fit the house, gallery, garage and workshop on that! Of course, once the old house becomes the gallery I'll only have a 20m commute. (metres)

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Greg Procter

Heck, that's 2.9 acres!

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MartinS

OK, some sympathy on the commute, I only walk upstairs. Thought so, you could easily fit my house and garden there and still have lots of room. No sympathy there then.

Cheers, Simon

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simon

Well no, it's a triangle.

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Greg Procter

I'd have to realign the garden railway to fit your house and garden in - that's not going to happen! The family left Bradford after WWI so I could have a decent garden, but there's no model shops under 3 hours drive - you win some, lose some.

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Greg Procter

OK, I like its current situation so thats fine. Did they take you with them ?

30 mins drive is my limit with his nibs, but theres a couple of good places to visit although the exhibitions have a better range.

CHeers, Simon

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simon

Not exactly - my Dad got here just after they landed. =8^)

I've got two railway preservation groups within 30mins and a model shop with cars and planes, Lego, Meccano, but no model trains.

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Greg Procter

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