Cheaper amptrol plugs

Hi I was wondering if you guys could point me to a place to find a cheaper 14 pin amptrol plug. I checked with Thermal-arc and it is over
$60.00. I just bought a control cable for a Thermal LM 300 to a 19 pin Thermal 2410 feeder and That cable cost less then $60.00. I now am just trying to hook up a Hobart 2210 feeder with a Arc 15 ft assist gun to the Thermal.(bought the last one control box made from Thermal). I only want to turn the contactor on and I will plug the feeder into 120 volts on the wall outlet. I am downsizing to the Thermal-arc and will just pick up a Miller 17 pin Optima control for the Thermal. I prefer the short-arc of the Thermal over the powermig 300 I had. There is something about the way the bead wets out better then the Lincoln,even when using inductance on the Lincoln. To be fair to Lincoln though, I really did not spend all that much time welding steel with it. I hated changing over from the python to the standard mig gun and back. That is why I have two feeder to take care of that. I tried that setup with the Lincoln but the thing still weighs about a ton and was kind of unhandy to go portable.
Ps- I love the arc assist gun pretty well and it has some advantages over the Python/ prince setups I had on my 300 powermig. The comfortable feeling in the hand of the python is not one of them though. I kind of like the CK style open tips better for less burn back problems when using .035 wire in the python.
Thanks for any info,I tried the using the search function and got nowhere. If I remember right there is a good place up in Seattle somewhere?
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Lots of online dealers
http://www.connectworld.net/space /
For more dealers, do a google search for "Amphenol connectors"
Here is some info I posted before:
Most welding machine connectros are Series -97 Amphenol.
The actual catalog for 97-Series connectors used for Welding machine remote connectors is this one.
http://www.amphenol-aerospace.com/catalogs/zip/12-022.zip
Once you have the number of the part you want you call one of these suppliers
Powel Electronics 800-235-7880 TTI Electronics 800-225-5884 Arrow Electronics 800-388-2277 AVNet Electronics 800-332-8638
The connector used by Miller for all 14-pin connections is a #97-4106A-20-27-P, with strain relief #97-3507-12
I just ordered 4 of each from Powel, at $18.20 each for the connector and $7.05 each for the strain relief.
Quite painless once you know who to talk to.
Miller charges about $50 for that connector and theirs are plastic. The ones I ordered are real Mil spec metal connectors.
The way Amphenol lists their parts is kind of simple. They are all Series 97 connectors. Next is what shell it uses, then the insert number The core of a connector is the insert, which is specified by the diameter in Millimeters and the type#, so the 14-pin connector used by Miller is actually a 20-27. After that goes an S for Socket or a P for Pin.
Some other connector numbers.
Lincoln 6 pin 18-12 Miller 5 pin 16S-8 Lincoln 5 pin 16-11 Hobart 5 pin 18-20 Hobart 10 pin 18-19

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Ernie, I don't know about other Miller machines, but my 180SD and Diamondback 17 Series torch have 14-pin connectors made by AMP/Tyco. It's very similar to the Amphenol 97-4106A-20-27-P, but with what appears to be a slightly different pin arrangment. I don't think they'er interchangable. This 14-pin AMP/Tyco connector is not one of their standard configurations. I searched all my electronics vendors' catalogs and AMP's web site, and finally had to contact AMP/Tyco. I ordered a set, and can verify that they do fit my machine. I needed them because I'm in the process of building a add-on pulser to put inline with my foot control.
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So what was the designation for the connector? Miller also uses a different connector for the Maxstar 140 and 150. Eventually I would like to have all the conector designations for all the remtoe connector of all the machines. So far I have about 12 of them.
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Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:

Sorry, I should have included that. I'll email you the vendor and part #'s tomorrow from work.
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Ken Moffett wrote:

Please indicate which Miller 180SD you have - a Syncrowave (digital) or Syncrowave 180SD 'LowBoy'. I have the 180SD digital myself. I'd be interested, but in a pinch could live without my foot pedal or hand control if I wanted the other and had a bad connector - or designed a neat little toy.
If you come up with something - keep us all posted.
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It's not digital( no display), so I assume it's the "Low Boy". I just posted the part numbers in this thread today.
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The AMP/Tyco Connectors for the Miller 180SD are available from: Electronic Industries Inc. P.O. Box 266 Oshkosh WI 54903-0266 (920) 235-8930 http://www.electronicind.com
Part numbers: 1 each: AP-213571-2...Plug (on the foot switch) 1 each: AP213570-1...Receptacle (on the welder) 1 each: AP206070-1...Plug Shell w/Cable Clamp (on the foot switch) 10 each: AP-213603-2...Pin, 18-14, Tin (on the foot switch) 10 each: AP-66601-2...Socket, 18-14, Gold (on the welder) Total (w/ shipping) was $27.82
The pins and sockets are available in different metals and for different wire gauges. I took what Electronics Industries had in stock at the time.
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (scott) wrote:

Both Digi-Key and Mouser have them for more reasonable prices, as will any decent electronics supply (those two happen to have convenient catalog/web site ordering and I'm an occasional customer - no other relationship, and I'm sure that there are plenty of others).
http://www.digi-key.com /
http://www.mouser.com /
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Thanks guys,it would of probably helped my search if I called the plug the right word.(Amphenol)I printed this out so I can have it around when needed.
Scott
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